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I REALLY don't understand your reasoning. Most privacy advocates claim GDPR didn't go far enough.

PaulHoule 4y ago
Maybe I've been doing this longer than some of you. The way I saw it was that there was always pressure to harass users (privacy is not just an lack of dossier building, it's also a "right to be let alone") and I was successful at pushing back against this at least somewhat in many places I worked. When GDPR came out it was like the dam broke or like when Phillip Zimbardo smashed the window on the car... All of a sudden nobody wanted to listen when you said they should slow down on the harassment. The EU set this example that harassment was "good" or "required", so it made other forms of web harassment more acceptable. In the US we also had the HIPPA law which showed the moral bankrupcy of "privacy policies". That is, if you get the simplest health care services in the US you have to sign a 50 page document that enumerates such a long list of people who are entitled to your health care data any reasonable person would ask "Why don't they just leave all my health records on the curb and save so much money on paperwork they could cut my health insurance premiums in half." The harassment, paperwork, costs, and lost innovation is all real. Dossier builders are going to go ahead and build dossiers anyway. The EU gets to prove it is a player by doing a stupendous act of vandalism against a public resource. (e.g. if you want to improve privacy don't ask for "consent"... that's as problematic as consent for sex... just don't let the data get collected to begin with)
- simion314 4y ago
  Quick question, why just don't collect data that is not essential for your product? Is it because you are jealous that some bastard still collects it and you don't want to be the sucker that respects the laws? or this non-essential data is making you enough money? Be honest, some people here appreciate capitalists with no morals, blame the game not the player kind of people

Maybe I've been doing this longer than some of you. The way I saw it was that there was always pressure to harass users (privacy is not just an lack of dossier building, it's also a "right to be let alone") and I was successful at pushing back against this at least somewhat in many places I worked. When GDPR came out it was like the dam broke or like when Phillip Zimbardo smashed the window on the car... All of a sudden nobody wanted to listen when you said they should slow down on the harassment. The EU set this example that harassment was "good" or "required", so it made other forms of web harassment more acceptable. In the US we also had the HIPPA law which showed the moral bankrupcy of "privacy policies". That is, if you get the simplest health care services in the US you have to sign a 50 page document that enumerates such a long list of people who are entitled to your health care data any reasonable person would ask "Why don't they just leave all my health records on the curb and save so much money on paperwork they could cut my health insurance premiums in half." The harassment, paperwork, costs, and lost innovation is all real. Dossier builders are going to go ahead and build dossiers anyway. The EU gets to prove it is a player by doing a stupendous act of vandalism against a public resource. (e.g. if you want to improve privacy don't ask for "consent"... that's as problematic as consent for sex... just don't let the data get collected to begin with)

simion314 4y ago
Quick question, why just don't collect data that is not essential for your product? Is it because you are jealous that some bastard still collects it and you don't want to be the sucker that respects the laws? or this non-essential data is making you enough money? Be honest, some people here appreciate capitalists with no morals, blame the game not the player kind of people