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If people are working at FoxConn voluntarily (i.e, they choose to go to work there because they believe their lives are better that way), who cares? Now you ar
by raganwald 15y ago
If people are working at FoxConn voluntarily (i.e, they choose to go to work there because they believe their lives are better that way), who cares?
Now you are moving the goalposts from discussing Foxconn to the question of whether we should regulate free will.
I’m not asking you to agree with my stance on any of the following questions, but I do ask you to recognize that they are equivalent to your question, and to recognize that many other people hold differing views from your own:
* If people want jobs working at a construction site that doesn't follow safe practices like wearing a hard hat, who cares?
* If people want to work for $1 a day, who cares?
* If people want to work for an employer who insists on sexual favours as a condition of their employment, who cares?
I think you can recognize that while there are folks who don’t care about any of these questions anywhere in the world, including North America, in the US and in Canada there are a sufficient number of people who do care that we can readily say that our moral standard is such that we claim to care as a society.
As for being forced to work somewhere, I’d say you’re rarely forced to do anything, you just find yourself in an environment where the alternatives are so drastically unappealing that you effectively have no free will in the matter.
This is why we choose to impose safety standards in the workplace: We have discovered that the free market will act in such a way that safe workplaces are extremely rare, and in turn people seeking jobs will discover that they have few if any options available to themselves.
- javert 15y agoI think that the questions you raise are extremely pertinent, so I agree with you there. We have discovered that the free market will act in such a way that safe workplaces are extremely rare I just don't buy that. I think "extremely rare," there, is a very gross exaggeration. And I think the frequency of dangerous workplaces greatly decreases, as national prosperity increases (which, modulo other kinds of interference, happens over time). I mean, come on - even Foxconn is relatively safe. I'm not hearing accounts of people getting killed, I'm hearing (at worst) accounts of people being fired after acquiring certain kinds of repetitive stress injuries. On the other hand, I do have a moral problem with someone forcefully interposing between two trading parties (in this case, employer and employee). In fact, that kind of case is the only kind in which people are forcibly prevented from exercising their free will.