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I've found Spotify's recommendations to be brilliant. Easily the best music-related thing I've been introduced to in 10-20 years. I'll often open Discover Weekl

by prawn 4y ago

I've found Spotify's recommendations to be brilliant. Easily the best music-related thing I've been introduced to in 10-20 years. I'll often open Discover Weekly and end up favouriting more than half of the suggestions and only not favouriting the rest because I'm feeling pickier given the success rate. It's helped me discover loads of new artists and tracks. Maybe it varies dramatically by genre?

mbreese 4y ago
Apple Music (well, iTunes at the time) was pretty good. But that was in the era where you bought music, so they had a full profile of what you liked. More importantly, with your iPod, they knew what you actually played, no matter how obscure. Now, with streaming, this is much harder problem because the only signals you get are likes and play time, but this signal is a lot more noisy than music you would spend real money on.
byb 4y ago
It may vary well work best by genre, or not cater to people who have gone through spaghettification (insist on subdividing genres infinitely) with their music. For example, take the "Phonk" genre, which I only was introduced to due to the Ukrainian war. To mean these recommendations give me a lot of new music to listen to. But then you have people lamenting that "Phonk" has really been overtaken by "Drift Phonk". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV7hnCB_ZE&ab_channel=yokai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV7hnCB_ZE&ab_channel=yokai On the other hand, I personally enjoy albums and songs major artist after they achieve critical success, when they establish their signature sound, like David Bowie(1970-1983), Stevie Wonder (1972-1976), or Peter Gabriel(1986-1992), but if I "like" any of these songs on Spotify, it means I get their entire catalog mixed in my daily mixes, and if they ever release a live album, those tracks show up. This is not what I want.
- lovingCranberry 4y ago
  I find the video you linked awful. Music genres change, that's nothing new at all. Just look at the type of trance from the early 2000s and compare it to today's trance. It's a completely different sound. Would the author also complain about "progressive trance" taking over "trance"? It's natural that some sub genres might become more popular, while others lose listeners relative to the newcomers. Same happened in techno, rap etc. While Spotify might accelerate this process through a positive feedback loop, this video is just another form of gatekeeping and saying "I knew XYZ before it was cool".

by prawn 4y ago

mbreese 4y ago

Apple Music (well, iTunes at the time) was pretty good. But that was in the era where you bought music, so they had a full profile of what you liked. More importantly, with your iPod, they knew what you actually played, no matter how obscure. Now, with streaming, this is much harder problem because the only signals you get are likes and play time, but this signal is a lot more noisy than music you would spend real money on.

byb 4y ago

It may vary well work best by genre, or not cater to people who have gone through spaghettification (insist on subdividing genres infinitely) with their music. For example, take the "Phonk" genre, which I only was introduced to due to the Ukrainian war. To mean these recommendations give me a lot of new music to listen to. But then you have people lamenting that "Phonk" has really been overtaken by "Drift Phonk". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV7hnCB_ZE&ab_channel=yokai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV7hnCB_ZE&ab_channel=yokai On the other hand, I personally enjoy albums and songs major artist after they achieve critical success, when they establish their signature sound, like David Bowie(1970-1983), Stevie Wonder (1972-1976), or Peter Gabriel(1986-1992), but if I "like" any of these songs on Spotify, it means I get their entire catalog mixed in my daily mixes, and if they ever release a live album, those tracks show up. This is not what I want.

lovingCranberry 4y ago
I find the video you linked awful. Music genres change, that's nothing new at all. Just look at the type of trance from the early 2000s and compare it to today's trance. It's a completely different sound. Would the author also complain about "progressive trance" taking over "trance"? It's natural that some sub genres might become more popular, while others lose listeners relative to the newcomers. Same happened in techno, rap etc. While Spotify might accelerate this process through a positive feedback loop, this video is just another form of gatekeeping and saying "I knew XYZ before it was cool".