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You can add a second to your list. Spotify doesn't have a lot of my favorite music, and the recommendations have always been bland and boring or downright bad t

by t-3 5y ago

You can add a second to your list. Spotify doesn't have a lot of my favorite music, and the recommendations have always been bland and boring or downright bad to me.

zoom6628 5y ago
Add a 3rd. Stopped using Spotify because the recs downright annoying. I prefer to use YT Music s it seems thoroughly confused by having each person in family use from my service account to the point the suggestions are general in nature. They still do not get played though. I refuse to click on suggestions in any product as that reinforces their data on me/us. I’m quite ok if any music engine thinks I’m a polyglot toddler with penchant for death metal, Thai ballads, and ancient Chinese orchestral Music. Such a profile makes me soooo much less likely to get other music or junk marketed to me ;-)
- stavros 5y ago
  Fourth, I've never found a recommendation engine I like. Maybe I have weird taste in music, but Spotify only ever recommended one song that I ended up loving (oddly, the very first one it ever did).
  - LigmaYC 5y ago
    Fifth, Spotify recommendations have only ever given me 1 song that I liked over the 3 years I used spotify.
    - lokedhs 5y ago
      At this point adding numbers to the people agreeing seems pointless, but I'm also in this cat3egory. Sure, I've had some good recommendations, but I'd expect any recommendation engine to do that just by chance. What I can say is that Spotify has never proposed something truly new and interesting to me. If I listen to a lot of metal, it'll recommend me the most bland stuff in the same genre. What's even worse is that it keeps playing the same songs over and over again. It's like the recommendation engine just gives up and starts repeating its suggestions again.
      - _carbyau_ 5y ago
        Your last paragraph is why I got rid of Spotify. I like music to move me. It was amazing how I could start a run of upbeat, pumping, specifically chosen songs and then have the recommendation engine suggest 30 minutes of cruisy blandness.. I simply gave up on it. Why have access to everything when I only got the crap. Going back to my personal collection increased my good/bad song ratio considerably.
jasonlotito 5y ago
That's fine. It doesn't change my opinion, nor my sentiment. If Spotify's recommendation engine wasn't as good as it was, it would not have the users it has, and would probably have been eaten up by now. Nothing anyone has said has shaken that belief, nor offered up anything worthwhile.
- coldtea 5y ago
  >It doesn't change my opinion, nor my sentiment "It" being reality? >If Spotify's recommendation engine wasn't as good as it was, it would not have the users it has Now that's just confirmation bias + circular logic. A streaming service can have users regardless of how good its recommendation engine is. YouTube has crappy recommendation (and has had worse for most of the time it existed) but tons of users. For Pandora and Spotify, merely offering a convenient way to stream music, a free tier, and a big catalog, was enough. You seem convinced of some bizarro idea that a media/streaming service can only succeed based on its recommendation engine. Where did you get that from?

by t-3 5y ago

You can add a second to your list. Spotify doesn't have a lot of my favorite music, and the recommendations have always been bland and boring or downright bad to me.

zoom6628 5y ago

Add a 3rd. Stopped using Spotify because the recs downright annoying. I prefer to use YT Music s it seems thoroughly confused by having each person in family use from my service account to the point the suggestions are general in nature. They still do not get played though. I refuse to click on suggestions in any product as that reinforces their data on me/us. I’m quite ok if any music engine thinks I’m a polyglot toddler with penchant for death metal, Thai ballads, and ancient Chinese orchestral Music. Such a profile makes me soooo much less likely to get other music or junk marketed to me ;-)

stavros 5y ago
Fourth, I've never found a recommendation engine I like. Maybe I have weird taste in music, but Spotify only ever recommended one song that I ended up loving (oddly, the very first one it ever did).
- LigmaYC 5y ago
  Fifth, Spotify recommendations have only ever given me 1 song that I liked over the 3 years I used spotify.
  - lokedhs 5y ago
    At this point adding numbers to the people agreeing seems pointless, but I'm also in this cat3egory. Sure, I've had some good recommendations, but I'd expect any recommendation engine to do that just by chance. What I can say is that Spotify has never proposed something truly new and interesting to me. If I listen to a lot of metal, it'll recommend me the most bland stuff in the same genre. What's even worse is that it keeps playing the same songs over and over again. It's like the recommendation engine just gives up and starts repeating its suggestions again.
    - _carbyau_ 5y ago
      Your last paragraph is why I got rid of Spotify. I like music to move me. It was amazing how I could start a run of upbeat, pumping, specifically chosen songs and then have the recommendation engine suggest 30 minutes of cruisy blandness.. I simply gave up on it. Why have access to everything when I only got the crap. Going back to my personal collection increased my good/bad song ratio considerably.

jasonlotito 5y ago

That's fine. It doesn't change my opinion, nor my sentiment. If Spotify's recommendation engine wasn't as good as it was, it would not have the users it has, and would probably have been eaten up by now. Nothing anyone has said has shaken that belief, nor offered up anything worthwhile.

coldtea 5y ago
>It doesn't change my opinion, nor my sentiment "It" being reality? >If Spotify's recommendation engine wasn't as good as it was, it would not have the users it has Now that's just confirmation bias + circular logic. A streaming service can have users regardless of how good its recommendation engine is. YouTube has crappy recommendation (and has had worse for most of the time it existed) but tons of users. For Pandora and Spotify, merely offering a convenient way to stream music, a free tier, and a big catalog, was enough. You seem convinced of some bizarro idea that a media/streaming service can only succeed based on its recommendation engine. Where did you get that from?