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Just because you don’t have the problem doesn’t mean you should trivialise someone else’s experience. How rude. Try listening more, and hold back from telling

Just because you don’t have the problem doesn’t mean you should trivialise someone else’s experience. How rude. Try listening more, and hold back from telling people how to solve problems they didn’t ask for help solving.

Crabber 4y ago
And yet you are trivialising the experience of the person you are replying to. How rude.
- manicdee 4y ago
  Someone expressed a problem they have which having a map helps them with, the reply was that people who need maps are lazy (despite the existence of maps suggesting that needing them is endemic to human existence). Whose experience am I trivialising here? I am not interested in participating in your purity politics.
  - Crabber 4y ago
    Not once was laziness mentioned, you are projecting. The post is just someone sharing that their own experience is completely different to that of the parent.
- PeterisP 4y ago
  Thing is, there's no symmetry here. If some people genuinely have problems and some genuinely don't, then only common conclusion is that the problems do exist (for some) and so solutions to them are required, so the experiences of the people who had problems can't be trivialized (because that experience is relevant for solving the problem even if they're in the minority) and the experiences of the people who didn't have a problem should be trivialized unless there's a good argument that those experiences almost universal and the problem actually is not real.
  - Crabber 4y ago
    >If some people genuinely have problems and some genuinely don't You only gather data to reach that conclusion by letting both sides talk about their experiences, not by telling one side "you're rude, shut up and listen more".
    - PeterisP 4y ago
      No, the conclusion that some people genuinely have problems can be reached without listening to the experiences of those who don't have problems, the testimony of the people with problems is fully sufficient for that conclusion. As I explained above, even if some people genuinely don't have those problems, that is simply irrelevant if others do have them.
      - Crabber 4y ago
        No, that would lead you to conclude that all people have problems

Crabber 4y ago

And yet you are trivialising the experience of the person you are replying to. How rude.

manicdee 4y ago
Someone expressed a problem they have which having a map helps them with, the reply was that people who need maps are lazy (despite the existence of maps suggesting that needing them is endemic to human existence). Whose experience am I trivialising here? I am not interested in participating in your purity politics.
- Crabber 4y ago
  Not once was laziness mentioned, you are projecting. The post is just someone sharing that their own experience is completely different to that of the parent.
PeterisP 4y ago
Thing is, there's no symmetry here. If some people genuinely have problems and some genuinely don't, then only common conclusion is that the problems do exist (for some) and so solutions to them are required, so the experiences of the people who had problems can't be trivialized (because that experience is relevant for solving the problem even if they're in the minority) and the experiences of the people who didn't have a problem should be trivialized unless there's a good argument that those experiences almost universal and the problem actually is not real.
- Crabber 4y ago
  >If some people genuinely have problems and some genuinely don't You only gather data to reach that conclusion by letting both sides talk about their experiences, not by telling one side "you're rude, shut up and listen more".
  - PeterisP 4y ago
    No, the conclusion that some people genuinely have problems can be reached without listening to the experiences of those who don't have problems, the testimony of the people with problems is fully sufficient for that conclusion. As I explained above, even if some people genuinely don't have those problems, that is simply irrelevant if others do have them.
    - Crabber 4y ago
      No, that would lead you to conclude that all people have problems