> I don't know, the Romans were pretty democratic so I've been told and they collapsed due to internal reasons. Lots of empires that weren't so democratic laste

> I don't know, the Romans were pretty democratic so I've been told and they collapsed due to internal reasons. Lots of empires that weren't so democratic lasted much longer. Is that your point? Do you think Obamacare was beneficial for the USA society? The cut in taxes by Trump? The wars in Irak, in Afghanistan? Did the fed ever get it wrong? Just within the last years there's a huge number of decisions that I'd imagine you'd think maybe had a bad effect on the country, regardless of your political inclinations. > Has there ever been a government that is completely atheistic and yet is doing well, thriving in fact? Hmmm...you may not like that answer to that me thinks. Elaborate please. Isn't the government of Norway atheistic, or Switzerland?