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I don't know that it's necessarily fair to describe this as a purely Western phenomenon. The Lamas were a hereditary elite who ruled over Tibet in a brutal cast

I don't know that it's necessarily fair to describe this as a purely Western phenomenon. The Lamas were a hereditary elite who ruled over Tibet in a brutal caste system which reduced most of the people in it to the status of serfs, and all with their own particular strain of Buddhism used to justify and excuse it all. On our fridge, my wife has a picture of the Dalai Lama wearing a big fancy watch on his wrist. I always wonder how such a luxurious ostentation is supposed to fit in with what he preaches.

babyshake 4y ago
In a way, it is good for a famous spiritual leader to have obvious human flaws. I don't know too much about modern Buddhism but I don't think it would be good for Buddhists to worship their leader as being more than a mere mortal who might enjoy wearing a fancy watch.
- _y5hn 4y ago
  It's a petty concern for someone who visits world leaders and maintain international relations at that level. It could be a conversation-starter in more unofficial moments, for fun (spiritual people are allowed 1 teaspoon of fun each day!) or just being practical. These kinds of topics are unfortunately what the focus many will remain at.
  - serf 4y ago
    >or just being practical generally speaking -- rolex collections don't spring up from practical reasons -- and he's known to purposely use cheap watch bands and flip the watch faces towards his wrists in an effort to hide them from view.. https://www.watchmaster.com/en/journal/stories-en/personalities-the-dalai-lama-and-his-watches https://www.watchmaster.com/en/journal/stories-en/personalit...
    - sundvor 4y ago
      Great article, thanks. Can't fault a man for having a passion for mechanical watches, especially when as the article states he has disassembled / assembled some of them. I can only begin to imagine the fine motor and mental control required.
    - jamal-kumar 4y ago
      The man has to keep time, and has the money to throw at that... Ever seen the dude all distracted starting into an iphone? He has clearly done away with such worldly goods and isn't making a dime on that at all! [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wOoXijqZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wOoXijqZE
  - IdEntities 4y ago
    Perhaps it was a subject of discussion while he was visiting the Aum Shinrikyo or NXIVM!
- salty_biscuits 4y ago
  The dalai llama is believed to be the literal reincarnation of the bodhisattva of compassion, so not a mere mortal.
jamal-kumar 4y ago
Here's a zen koan Have you ever asked your wife about this?
watwut 4y ago
Dalai Lama preches the need for performative poverty or something?
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Chris2048 4y ago
It seems he received it as a gift.

babyshake 4y ago

In a way, it is good for a famous spiritual leader to have obvious human flaws. I don't know too much about modern Buddhism but I don't think it would be good for Buddhists to worship their leader as being more than a mere mortal who might enjoy wearing a fancy watch.

_y5hn 4y ago
It's a petty concern for someone who visits world leaders and maintain international relations at that level. It could be a conversation-starter in more unofficial moments, for fun (spiritual people are allowed 1 teaspoon of fun each day!) or just being practical. These kinds of topics are unfortunately what the focus many will remain at.
- serf 4y ago
  >or just being practical generally speaking -- rolex collections don't spring up from practical reasons -- and he's known to purposely use cheap watch bands and flip the watch faces towards his wrists in an effort to hide them from view.. https://www.watchmaster.com/en/journal/stories-en/personalities-the-dalai-lama-and-his-watches https://www.watchmaster.com/en/journal/stories-en/personalit...
  - sundvor 4y ago
    Great article, thanks. Can't fault a man for having a passion for mechanical watches, especially when as the article states he has disassembled / assembled some of them. I can only begin to imagine the fine motor and mental control required.
  - jamal-kumar 4y ago
    The man has to keep time, and has the money to throw at that... Ever seen the dude all distracted starting into an iphone? He has clearly done away with such worldly goods and isn't making a dime on that at all! [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wOoXijqZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-wOoXijqZE
- IdEntities 4y ago
  Perhaps it was a subject of discussion while he was visiting the Aum Shinrikyo or NXIVM!
salty_biscuits 4y ago
The dalai llama is believed to be the literal reincarnation of the bodhisattva of compassion, so not a mere mortal.

jamal-kumar 4y ago

Here's a zen koan Have you ever asked your wife about this?

watwut 4y ago

Dalai Lama preches the need for performative poverty or something?

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Chris2048 4y ago

It seems he received it as a gift.