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The reality is that most people get depressed because of the environment we are in. Modern US life is killing us because of a lot of factors people don't want t

The reality is that most people get depressed because of the environment we are in. Modern US life is killing us because of a lot of factors people don't want to admit as the problem. Economics, racism, religion, etc. The US has been and continues to be a brutal regime, and everyone on this site pretends it isn't because that's the false narrative you want to believe.

walkhour 4y ago
> Economics, racism, religion Are you aware that a whole swath of society blames the current problems on over regulation of the economy, obsession over race and lack of religion. Both sides are not able to convince the other, which means we actually don't know how to solve this and the proposed solutions go in opposite directions, that is, every side claims the solutions of the other are actually detrimental. How do you know you're right? > US has been and continues to be a brutal regime, and everyone on this site pretends it isn't because that's the false narrative you want to believe. In comparison to what other regimes? Are the fifty million immigrants in USA and the hundreds of millions that want to come to come to USA also pretending?
- Layke1123 4y ago
  I know I'm right because if these were the cure to society, religion would be growing, not shrinking, regulation would be decreasing, not increasing, and racial tensions would be decreasing, not increasing. How else do you explain the trends? Revolutions don't happen because things are working. They happen because things ARE NOT working. If America was mecca, we wouldn't be in this situation where thousands of teens are suicidal. Why does it have to be in comparison? I don't have to say, well at least I'm better than that guy and pretend thats good enough. There could be serious flaws with myself that I should acknowledge could be way better than turning and pointing a finger at others. And talking to those immigrants, the impression I have always gathered is that they don't believe the US is better, but that they have no alternatives where they come from. Lots of people immigrate to whatever country they can get to. If you sum up all immigration to Europe, you suddenly see that the US isn't quite the leader you think it is.
  - JPLeRouzic 4y ago
    > If you some up all immigration to Europe, you suddenly see that the US isn't quite the leader you think it is. Geography puts a lot of constraints in who can travel where. A lot of people came in western Europe from Afghanistan or central Africa by walking [0]. You need two months, so it's not an insurmountable task. Most dangers come from predatory people. Walking to US could be done from central or south America. A similar feat would be going from Bogota to San Diego. Yet it means much less people are in situation to walk to US than to Western Europe. [0] https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kabul,+Afghanistan/Calais+Eurotunnel,+Channel+Tunnel,+62231+Coquelles/@41.9394177,17.9345395,4z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x38d1694c3c1e6d49:0xebdf473578214429!2m2!1d69.207486!2d34.5553494!1m5!1m1!1s0x47dc3ee7e1f67c7f:0x9914651fa24caa06!2m2!1d1.8148836!2d50.9359118!3e2 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kabul,+Afghanistan/Calais+Eu...
    - Layke1123 4y ago
      So is this an argument in favor of letting immigrants migrate to America, or simply a flex that most people want to immigrate to America?
  - walkhour 4y ago
    > I know I'm right because if these were the cure to society, religion would be growing, not shrinking, regulation would be decreasing, not increasing Your argument is hard to understand, but what I read here is, "economic regulation is good because otherwise, economic regulation would be decreasing", and similar with religion and racism, which shows an outstanding lack of knowledge regarding all the societies that have adopted measures negative for them. > Why does it have to be in comparison? Agreed, there's no contradiction in saying the USA is brutal and one of the less brutal regimes in the world, to the point that it's the number one destination from immigrants that can actually choose where to live.
    - Layke1123 4y ago
      So which societies have adopted them and it lead to negatives? I would like an example and also an explanation for why these things aren't solved problems in America then? > Agreed, there's no contradiction in saying the USA is brutal and one of the less brutal regimes in the world, to the point that it's the number one destination from immigrants that can actually choose where to live. That also does not mean the USA is working and working well for people, hence the millions of suicidal teens. It's possible that no system is working.
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walkhour 4y ago

> Economics, racism, religion Are you aware that a whole swath of society blames the current problems on over regulation of the economy, obsession over race and lack of religion. Both sides are not able to convince the other, which means we actually don't know how to solve this and the proposed solutions go in opposite directions, that is, every side claims the solutions of the other are actually detrimental. How do you know you're right? > US has been and continues to be a brutal regime, and everyone on this site pretends it isn't because that's the false narrative you want to believe. In comparison to what other regimes? Are the fifty million immigrants in USA and the hundreds of millions that want to come to come to USA also pretending?

Layke1123 4y ago
I know I'm right because if these were the cure to society, religion would be growing, not shrinking, regulation would be decreasing, not increasing, and racial tensions would be decreasing, not increasing. How else do you explain the trends? Revolutions don't happen because things are working. They happen because things ARE NOT working. If America was mecca, we wouldn't be in this situation where thousands of teens are suicidal. Why does it have to be in comparison? I don't have to say, well at least I'm better than that guy and pretend thats good enough. There could be serious flaws with myself that I should acknowledge could be way better than turning and pointing a finger at others. And talking to those immigrants, the impression I have always gathered is that they don't believe the US is better, but that they have no alternatives where they come from. Lots of people immigrate to whatever country they can get to. If you sum up all immigration to Europe, you suddenly see that the US isn't quite the leader you think it is.
- JPLeRouzic 4y ago
  > If you some up all immigration to Europe, you suddenly see that the US isn't quite the leader you think it is. Geography puts a lot of constraints in who can travel where. A lot of people came in western Europe from Afghanistan or central Africa by walking [0]. You need two months, so it's not an insurmountable task. Most dangers come from predatory people. Walking to US could be done from central or south America. A similar feat would be going from Bogota to San Diego. Yet it means much less people are in situation to walk to US than to Western Europe. [0] https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kabul,+Afghanistan/Calais+Eurotunnel,+Channel+Tunnel,+62231+Coquelles/@41.9394177,17.9345395,4z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x38d1694c3c1e6d49:0xebdf473578214429!2m2!1d69.207486!2d34.5553494!1m5!1m1!1s0x47dc3ee7e1f67c7f:0x9914651fa24caa06!2m2!1d1.8148836!2d50.9359118!3e2 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Kabul,+Afghanistan/Calais+Eu...
  - Layke1123 4y ago
    So is this an argument in favor of letting immigrants migrate to America, or simply a flex that most people want to immigrate to America?
- walkhour 4y ago
  > I know I'm right because if these were the cure to society, religion would be growing, not shrinking, regulation would be decreasing, not increasing Your argument is hard to understand, but what I read here is, "economic regulation is good because otherwise, economic regulation would be decreasing", and similar with religion and racism, which shows an outstanding lack of knowledge regarding all the societies that have adopted measures negative for them. > Why does it have to be in comparison? Agreed, there's no contradiction in saying the USA is brutal and one of the less brutal regimes in the world, to the point that it's the number one destination from immigrants that can actually choose where to live.
  - Layke1123 4y ago
    So which societies have adopted them and it lead to negatives? I would like an example and also an explanation for why these things aren't solved problems in America then? > Agreed, there's no contradiction in saying the USA is brutal and one of the less brutal regimes in the world, to the point that it's the number one destination from immigrants that can actually choose where to live. That also does not mean the USA is working and working well for people, hence the millions of suicidal teens. It's possible that no system is working.

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