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If, say, a Motorola or Samsung device garnered such status, I wonder if people would dig up shit on said devices. Lets face it people. If you bought something

If, say, a Motorola or Samsung device garnered such status, I wonder if people would dig up shit on said devices. Lets face it people. If you bought something from China, you are complicit. If you bought something from a country poorer than China, say, oil from Nigeria, you are probably worse than complicit. Don't like it? My parents come from one of these modernizing nations. Should we be more humane? Sure, but this sort of journalism is juvenile. The general sentiment amongst expats and exchange students alike is that these countries will rise up. The only thing worse than being exploited by capitalism is not being exploited by capitalism.

bproper 15y ago
I think you're probably right that this kind of inhumane labor extends to all gadgets. The article says as much. But isn't the point that Apple is lionized as a "revolutionary" company and Mr. Jobs as a "genius" and a humanitarian? And BTW, how is the opinion of expats and exchange students enough to speak for the whole nation? They are likely not the ones working in the factories.
- afterburner 15y ago
  Exactly! It is the reverence given to Steve Jobs that makes this particularly interesting. We all assume other companies are screwing someone over to get us cheap goods, but somehow Apple marketing made buying their products practically a religious experience.
  - epochwolf 15y ago
    > Apple marketing made buying their products practically a religious experience. Not sure buying one is a religious experience. However, using their products definitely can be. It's annoying to have to reboot a device because it isn't connecting properly anymore after being on for a couple of weeks but it's nice knowing all you have to do is reboot. With other devices, a reboot is a hit or miss fix and you need to do it more often. I've only had one serious issue with macs that isn't fixed by a reboot and that's the network configuration holding on to dhcp leases or old certificates when they shouldn't. The it just works stuff people talk about isn't completely accurate. * My apple tv 1 shows up in itunes but nothing can connect to it. It's gone wandering again after a few weeks without a reboot. I think it's lonely. * I couldn't get openvpn to compile on Lion, I had to find a workaround. Most of the issues I deal with are small things. The video drivers have never crashed on me. It's not that everything just works. It's that more of it works than it does with other products. It also has a high amount of polish. I love the way OSX renders fonts. So much that using ubuntu makes me cry.
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cowboyhero 15y ago
That's the part I don't get: Foxconn is the world's biggest manufacturer of electronic components. They count Amazon, Dell, Motorola, HP, Nokia, Microsoft, and Apple among their clients. Yet only Apple gets the notice. Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Clients http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Clients

bproper 15y ago

I think you're probably right that this kind of inhumane labor extends to all gadgets. The article says as much. But isn't the point that Apple is lionized as a "revolutionary" company and Mr. Jobs as a "genius" and a humanitarian? And BTW, how is the opinion of expats and exchange students enough to speak for the whole nation? They are likely not the ones working in the factories.

afterburner 15y ago
Exactly! It is the reverence given to Steve Jobs that makes this particularly interesting. We all assume other companies are screwing someone over to get us cheap goods, but somehow Apple marketing made buying their products practically a religious experience.
- epochwolf 15y ago
  > Apple marketing made buying their products practically a religious experience. Not sure buying one is a religious experience. However, using their products definitely can be. It's annoying to have to reboot a device because it isn't connecting properly anymore after being on for a couple of weeks but it's nice knowing all you have to do is reboot. With other devices, a reboot is a hit or miss fix and you need to do it more often. I've only had one serious issue with macs that isn't fixed by a reboot and that's the network configuration holding on to dhcp leases or old certificates when they shouldn't. The it just works stuff people talk about isn't completely accurate. * My apple tv 1 shows up in itunes but nothing can connect to it. It's gone wandering again after a few weeks without a reboot. I think it's lonely. * I couldn't get openvpn to compile on Lion, I had to find a workaround. Most of the issues I deal with are small things. The video drivers have never crashed on me. It's not that everything just works. It's that more of it works than it does with other products. It also has a high amount of polish. I love the way OSX renders fonts. So much that using ubuntu makes me cry.
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cowboyhero 15y ago

That's the part I don't get: Foxconn is the world's biggest manufacturer of electronic components. They count Amazon, Dell, Motorola, HP, Nokia, Microsoft, and Apple among their clients. Yet only Apple gets the notice. Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Clients http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn#Clients