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It doesn’t really work both ways though. Remote fans don’t force everyone to be remote.

• TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago
  Office fans aren't a homogeneous whole. Perhaps it's likely at least some managers want more people to come to the office. It's also likely that some people who aren't managers, regular employees, just prefer the office.
• jstx1 4y ago
  They do. They might be able to say that they don't care where their coworkers are (and I believe them), but when enough people are remote, their colleagues are forced into a remote working model too because the team needs to communicate in a different way now. How people work is a mutual agreement, not something that's being done to one group by another.
• maratc 4y ago
  Remote fans force everyone to use tools to accommodate their remoteness. We used to have a stand-up meeting each morning at a time "when everyopne's arrived" and we used to have a whiteboard on the wall with the most current tasks. None of this can work with even one remote worker, so it's gone to scheduled Zooms, online task managers, and endless Slack messages.
  • manuelabeledo 4y ago
    In exchange, now you have proper record of everything said and done. I love the fact that I can always go back to Slack and say “See? This is what we agreed upon”, instead of having to recall the specifics of a meeting where notes weren’t taken in detail.
    • maratc 4y ago
      Much is still being said in person or calls, because talking is much more efficient than writing, so ... no, we don't "have proper record of everything said and done."
      • manuelabeledo 4y ago
        Yet we should.
        • maratc 4y ago
          Whether we should have that record or not is completely orthogonal to the conversation about how remote workers force (or not) the others to behave in a certain way to accommodate the remoteness of these workers.
    • nevermindiguess 4y ago
      So you like the written “proof” so you can face off your colleagues in case of disagreement? You seem to have negative feelings about your work environment. You should consider changing jobs.
      • manuelabeledo 4y ago
        No, I want processes, agreements, and ideas, documented. Slack, Zoom and other tools make this easier. As someone who had to train many junior employees, having a record trail is the best answer to the question “why the hell did we do this in the first place?”.
    • closeparen 4y ago
      I don’t find any difference in the record-keeping of remote vs. in person meetings. The record button is available to both, but the resulting video files just as unwieldy, and Zoom’s transcripts are garbage. Nor do I see any increased willingness to hash out complex issues in writing. The moment things get even slightly complex in a thread, it’s “let’s hop on a call.”
• peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  it forces others to "follow their dream" for the sole satisfaction of remote workers.