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I dunno, seems reasonable to let people pay to violate some ordinances. Maybe one day you're in a hurry and you don't mind paying the speeding tax.

• throwaway0a5e 4y ago
  > dunno, seems reasonable to let people pay to violate some ordinances That's literally what a zoning variance or an oversize load permit is.
• stefan_ 4y ago
  It's not a tax, it's the law.
• timbit42 4y ago
  One of the reasons for speed limits is to prevent death. Deciding to pay a fine isn't an acceptable reason to speed.
  • mlyle 4y ago
    And if we slowed down even more, we'd have even less death. It may sound crass. But-- fundamentally, society is making an economic tradeoff between the economic cost of a certain amount of death and the economic cost of taking longer to get places in your car.
    • stefan_ 4y ago
      No, there is no need for someone to go 80mph in a city and hit and kill someone else. Just as there is no need for 300kW engines and the like. That's not a tradeoff with anything; we can very simply do without.
      • mlyle 4y ago
        > there is no need for someone to go 80mph in a city and hit and kill someone else. Hyperbole is not awesome. I don't think anyone was advocating to go 80MPH in a city and to hit and kill someone else. I don't believe there's some bright line where going 25.001MPH is completely unsafe and reckless and 24.999MPH is completely OK. In the end, the limit is an arbitrary value providing a tradeoff between economics and safety, and people obey that particular exact value to avoid getting fined.