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Yes please. All of the straight pipe truck idiots, “loud pipes save lives” motorcycles and other various inconsiderate morons just ruin quality of life in citie

Yes please. All of the straight pipe truck idiots, “loud pipes save lives” motorcycles and other various inconsiderate morons just ruin quality of life in cities. In places like SF, it won’t discriminate (exclusively) by class either. One of the worst offenders in my old neighborhood was some deplorable in a modified Lamborghini SUV.

woodpanel 5y ago
I've long wondered when somebody would make way for this use-case. But still: Downvoted for the class-hate. Why do people have to make it about political camps instead of just engaging with basic comapssion for those whose communities/homes are close to the roads? You'd be amazed by the diversity of groups affected by it: Live in a "marginalized community"? It's probably a backup for traffic planners to divert cargo through (i.e. train lines, highways, airport close by). Live in a scenic area? Enjoy the exhaust pipes of road-trippers every weekend. etc.
- tragictrash 5y ago
  The OP was saying that the people with loud cars aren't always driving a POS civic, his example was a personal experience with a Lambo. His point was also literally the same thing you are saying.
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hooloovoo_zoo 5y ago
Honestly I would pay to have an enforcement zone set up near me.
ignu 5y ago
I used to live on a semi-busy street. About once an hour a motorcycle would drive by so loud it would set off multiple car alarms that would then blare for ten to fifteen minutes. This might sound very annoying. But after countless months of this your mortal coil just dissolves into an entity of pure hatred and you completely transcend the material plane.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  This, but despite my own noise sensitivity it’s how it torments my pup that really gets me. Poor girl is terrified of our busy road, tucks tail just at the hint of large loud vehicles. Sometimes we have to bail out and try to wait just so she can find a place to potty in peace. I absolutely hate that for her, and hate that it’s a daily occurrence that I have to coax her out to take care of normal bodily functions.
- Fatnino 5y ago
  I stayed in Chicago for a short time in a 100-something year old building right next to one of the oldest sections of elevated rail in the city. I could glance out the window on the second floor and the wheels would be right there, seeming close enough to touch. Within 2 days the screeching and grinding metal cacophony every few minutes had faded into the background and I had to mentally tune in to hear them again.
mech987 5y ago
I don't have empathy for loud pipes on trucks, but for motorcycles I give 'em the benefit of the doubt. Speaking as somebody that rides a quiet motorcycle and has almost been hit by inattentive drivers. The people that complain about the noise are implicitly valuing their own comfort over another person's safety. Even if you say that riding a motorcycle is an unnecessary risk, the tradeoffs are still obvious to me. When it comes to life and death on a motorcycle, the precautionary principle applies- anything that makes you more conspicuous is generally safer. I'd trust my own intuition over the unreliable state of scientific research on the matter.
- edmundsauto 5y ago
  > Id trust my own intuition over the internet liable state of scientific research on the matter Sorry to call you out, but this is incredibly selfish. Your own intuition leads to negative externalities for others that you simply ignore, even when presented with evidence. Riding a motorcycle is not a necessity and not a right. You should be more considerate of others and listen to the evidence that loud pipes do not save lives.

woodpanel 5y ago

I've long wondered when somebody would make way for this use-case. But still: Downvoted for the class-hate. Why do people have to make it about political camps instead of just engaging with basic comapssion for those whose communities/homes are close to the roads? You'd be amazed by the diversity of groups affected by it: Live in a "marginalized community"? It's probably a backup for traffic planners to divert cargo through (i.e. train lines, highways, airport close by). Live in a scenic area? Enjoy the exhaust pipes of road-trippers every weekend. etc.

tragictrash 5y ago
The OP was saying that the people with loud cars aren't always driving a POS civic, his example was a personal experience with a Lambo. His point was also literally the same thing you are saying.
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hooloovoo_zoo 5y ago

Honestly I would pay to have an enforcement zone set up near me.

ignu 5y ago

I used to live on a semi-busy street. About once an hour a motorcycle would drive by so loud it would set off multiple car alarms that would then blare for ten to fifteen minutes. This might sound very annoying. But after countless months of this your mortal coil just dissolves into an entity of pure hatred and you completely transcend the material plane.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
This, but despite my own noise sensitivity it’s how it torments my pup that really gets me. Poor girl is terrified of our busy road, tucks tail just at the hint of large loud vehicles. Sometimes we have to bail out and try to wait just so she can find a place to potty in peace. I absolutely hate that for her, and hate that it’s a daily occurrence that I have to coax her out to take care of normal bodily functions.
Fatnino 5y ago
I stayed in Chicago for a short time in a 100-something year old building right next to one of the oldest sections of elevated rail in the city. I could glance out the window on the second floor and the wheels would be right there, seeming close enough to touch. Within 2 days the screeching and grinding metal cacophony every few minutes had faded into the background and I had to mentally tune in to hear them again.

mech987 5y ago

I don't have empathy for loud pipes on trucks, but for motorcycles I give 'em the benefit of the doubt. Speaking as somebody that rides a quiet motorcycle and has almost been hit by inattentive drivers. The people that complain about the noise are implicitly valuing their own comfort over another person's safety. Even if you say that riding a motorcycle is an unnecessary risk, the tradeoffs are still obvious to me. When it comes to life and death on a motorcycle, the precautionary principle applies- anything that makes you more conspicuous is generally safer. I'd trust my own intuition over the unreliable state of scientific research on the matter.

edmundsauto 5y ago
> Id trust my own intuition over the internet liable state of scientific research on the matter Sorry to call you out, but this is incredibly selfish. Your own intuition leads to negative externalities for others that you simply ignore, even when presented with evidence. Riding a motorcycle is not a necessity and not a right. You should be more considerate of others and listen to the evidence that loud pipes do not save lives.