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Climate change: Your point is whataboutism. It does not address the issue. Inequality: Capitalism vs "left wing governments" is apples to oranges. And I don't
by drewcoo 5y ago
Climate change: Your point is whataboutism. It does not address the issue.
Inequality: Capitalism vs "left wing governments" is apples to oranges. And I don't think the point is that inequality exists so much as rate of growth in inequality.
Police brutality: If it's a problem, and it is, then not getting worse by some measure still doesn't mean it's no longer a problem. The "defund the police" party here in the US has responded to police brutality mostly by increasing police budgets.
Deadly pandemic: That's redundant. We don't have merely annoying pandemics. Many countries independently created vaccines - look up Cuba.
- baryphonic 5y agoTry to take my arguments charitably. My point about climate change is that the anti-capitalist governments had horrible environmental records during the Cold War (for another instance, see Lake Baikal), and continue do to so today. Liberal societies with capitalist governments were able to eliminate most pollution through increases in efficiency, and the rest was handled by things like the Clean Water Act and Clean Air Act. Those leftist anti-capitalist governments were such a failure that most of them don't exist today, so we can't assess them on climate change, but we can extrapolate. If the claim is that climate change is worse because of capitalism, and that we instead need a progressive/socialist turn to get rid of it, then it's fair to ask the record of those systems. That isn't "whataboutism." A "growth rate of inequality?" Show me the numbers. My point about police brutality is that it is not increasing, contradicting the original claim. Russia and China also were quite early to market with their vaccines. Would you trust them?