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It's not "anti-union rhetoric," come on. When is the last time a union has been formed in a workplace where everyone is happy, well paid, has great WLB, etc?
by pc86 5y ago
It's not "anti-union rhetoric," come on.
When is the last time a union has been formed in a workplace where everyone is happy, well paid, has great WLB, etc?
- krainboltgreene 5y agoIt's literally in the anti-union playbooks that union busting firms pass to their busters.
- pessimizer 5y agoNo, it is anti-union rhetoric. Assembling a union isn't assembling an army. We can start saying that unions are only necessary when management is bad right after we start saying that management should only have meetings when their employees are bad. edit: They only say three things - 1) unions aren't necessary if management are good people, 2) unions are an invasion of people from the outside who either don't understand how good our management is or are fomenting discontent for their own foreign purposes, and 3) management is actually fighting against you for you, because if they gave you everything you wanted the place would close down and you would lose your job. You're saying thing number 1.
- pc86 5y agoYou conveniently ignored my actual question.
- geraltofrivia 5y agoIn my previous job in Germany. Sector: Tech and Research. Excellent managers, amazing WLB (worked till 8PM once and the manager apologised next day), well paid: earning the median income straight out of college. Had an excellent union and everyone in company hierarchy worked cordially and yet deferentially with them. Unions are not necessarily a form of attack. Unionise.
- alostpuppy 5y agoI’ve always wondered if collective bargaining makes things easier in some way for a management.
- geraltofrivia 5y agoThey do because they can go to the executives and deny unreasonable goals outright, something to the effect of ‘how do you think four people with 39h of work weeks can do this’, implying that these hours are not going to increase so let’s hold our horses.
- driverdan 5y agoGerman unions are much different than US unions though.
- geraltofrivia 5y agoProbably because its easy and common to Unionise in Germany, they don’t have to go through hell and high water to form a collective (as silly as it sounds in the first place!)