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What problem, are these companies solving again? Go buy a legal spore syringe and you can grow more mushrooms than you could eat in a decade for $100 with the

by anm89 4y ago

What problem, are these companies solving again? Go buy a legal spore syringe and you can grow more mushrooms than you could eat in a decade for $100 with the uncle Ben tek or the poor boy tek or whatever. You don't need to pay big pharma 1000x price by weight for the same stuff

the_only_law 4y ago
> What problem, are these companies solving again? If I had to guess visibility. I may be wrong but at the very least it seems research is being done intro drugs that haven’t had the most or best research done. I one time gave my self a serotonin syndrome scare and was concerned by the lack of quality research and information on the serotonergic affects of many drugs.
pmoriarty 4y ago
It takes more than a syringe to grow mushrooms. It takes equipment, time, effort, and knowledge -- things most people don't have and don't want. This is the same reason most cannabis users don't grow their own supply, though it's supposedly "easy". Also the same reason most people go to grocery stores instead of growing their own food, and go to liquor stores instead of brewing their own beer. Most people want to offload the growing to others, and prefer the ease and convenience of buying premade and prepackaged goods. The huge variety of preparations and (in an ideal world) quality of commercial products is unlikely to be equaled by amateurs who dabble in growing on the weekend either. Also, advertising and packaging is going to draw people to commercial products. They might not technically "need" these, and maybe with enough time and effort the average person might be able to grow their own, but most certainly don't want that. They want a quick and convenient, commercially made and packaged product.
- anm89 4y ago
  A pan with a lid, some rice and some Mason jars, a plastic tote and one bag of substrate. Really not all that much. The fact that it can all be bought for 50-100 bucks says it all. And these simple teks require watching a few you tube video and maybe some trial and error. We are talking about minimal commitment in terms of time and money. I get why we need big pharma but mushrooms grow out of the ground ready to consume. We need big pharma for psychsdrlids as much as We need big pharma to grow bananas and zucchini
  - pmoriarty 4y ago
    Most people won't even buy a pot of basil to grow on their window sill that requires nothing but watering every now and then. They'd rather buy their basil from the grocery store. Same with pretty much all the other "simple to grow" plants. No way are most people going to invest all that money and watch hours of videos and then spend a lot of time, trial and error, probably more time to engage with the community to find out if they're doing it right or if the growth they're seeing is normal or contaminated, etc... it's just way too much trouble for most people. Sure, some enthusiasts will do it anyway (just like some people like to brew their own beer) but they will always be in the minority. One thing I could see happening is non-profit coops developing, with some interested people growing and then distributing their crop to non-growers for free or minimal cost... at least if the regulations that spring up around this allow them to do that. Even then, though, they will be in the minority.. just like food coops that do this sort of thing are in the minority now, even without all the regulation that will doubtlessly surround psychedelics.
    - anm89 4y ago
      Fine, pay someone at a gardening store to grow it. My point is that no value is added through all of the medicalization .
achenet 4y ago
Their founders lack of a third vacation home. :p There are a relatively large number of companies that aren't really "solving a problem" but still making bank. For example, what problem is Instagram solving? Giving advertisers an even easier way to target insecure teenage girls?
- anm89 4y ago
  Problem/task/goal. Selling ads to teen girls isn't my problem but if you're a skin care company than maybe it is your problem and you need the help. Mushrooms are already widely available and easy to grow. There is literally nothing for pharma to do here besides provide the same service in a way that makes it OK for rich people to do something which we don't want poor people to do. No need to pay the premium, just go buy the readily available mushrooms.

by anm89 4y ago

the_only_law 4y ago

> What problem, are these companies solving again? If I had to guess visibility. I may be wrong but at the very least it seems research is being done intro drugs that haven’t had the most or best research done. I one time gave my self a serotonin syndrome scare and was concerned by the lack of quality research and information on the serotonergic affects of many drugs.

pmoriarty 4y ago

It takes more than a syringe to grow mushrooms. It takes equipment, time, effort, and knowledge -- things most people don't have and don't want. This is the same reason most cannabis users don't grow their own supply, though it's supposedly "easy". Also the same reason most people go to grocery stores instead of growing their own food, and go to liquor stores instead of brewing their own beer. Most people want to offload the growing to others, and prefer the ease and convenience of buying premade and prepackaged goods. The huge variety of preparations and (in an ideal world) quality of commercial products is unlikely to be equaled by amateurs who dabble in growing on the weekend either. Also, advertising and packaging is going to draw people to commercial products. They might not technically "need" these, and maybe with enough time and effort the average person might be able to grow their own, but most certainly don't want that. They want a quick and convenient, commercially made and packaged product.

anm89 4y ago
A pan with a lid, some rice and some Mason jars, a plastic tote and one bag of substrate. Really not all that much. The fact that it can all be bought for 50-100 bucks says it all. And these simple teks require watching a few you tube video and maybe some trial and error. We are talking about minimal commitment in terms of time and money. I get why we need big pharma but mushrooms grow out of the ground ready to consume. We need big pharma for psychsdrlids as much as We need big pharma to grow bananas and zucchini
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  Most people won't even buy a pot of basil to grow on their window sill that requires nothing but watering every now and then. They'd rather buy their basil from the grocery store. Same with pretty much all the other "simple to grow" plants. No way are most people going to invest all that money and watch hours of videos and then spend a lot of time, trial and error, probably more time to engage with the community to find out if they're doing it right or if the growth they're seeing is normal or contaminated, etc... it's just way too much trouble for most people. Sure, some enthusiasts will do it anyway (just like some people like to brew their own beer) but they will always be in the minority. One thing I could see happening is non-profit coops developing, with some interested people growing and then distributing their crop to non-growers for free or minimal cost... at least if the regulations that spring up around this allow them to do that. Even then, though, they will be in the minority.. just like food coops that do this sort of thing are in the minority now, even without all the regulation that will doubtlessly surround psychedelics.
  - anm89 4y ago
    Fine, pay someone at a gardening store to grow it. My point is that no value is added through all of the medicalization .

achenet 4y ago

Their founders lack of a third vacation home. :p There are a relatively large number of companies that aren't really "solving a problem" but still making bank. For example, what problem is Instagram solving? Giving advertisers an even easier way to target insecure teenage girls?

anm89 4y ago
Problem/task/goal. Selling ads to teen girls isn't my problem but if you're a skin care company than maybe it is your problem and you need the help. Mushrooms are already widely available and easy to grow. There is literally nothing for pharma to do here besides provide the same service in a way that makes it OK for rich people to do something which we don't want poor people to do. No need to pay the premium, just go buy the readily available mushrooms.