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Fortunately there is no shortage of people on the planet, and plenty of younger people who would be happy to immigrate to either of those places. "Not enough yo

Fortunately there is no shortage of people on the planet, and plenty of younger people who would be happy to immigrate to either of those places. "Not enough younger people in our country" is an easily solvable problem.

the_only_law 5y ago
I’d be willing to immigrate somewhere at least for a while, but ofc, despite being a valued professional I lack the required papers.
kcb 5y ago
Yea...it will take quite a lot of societal change before plenty of young professionals would be happy to immigrate to Japan at least. Terrible work culture and "No Foreigners" signs chief among them.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  They actually have "no foreigners" signs, or is that more metaphorical? Are they for jobs, or even for shops/businesses?
  - ad404b8a372f2b9 5y ago
    For bars often, most often close to US military bases.
  - ricktdotorg 5y ago
    it makes you think for a moment when a central government thinks it would be worthwhile to create a map for citizens showing where they might encounter foreigners [0] some examples of no-foreigner signs: from 2014 [1], 2018 [2], COVID [3] [4], New Years Eve 2021 [5] [0] http://thejapanwanko.sub.jp/?p=3255 http://thejapanwanko.sub.jp/?p=3255 [1] https://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2014/03/09/discrimination_n_4928280.html https://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2014/03/09/discrimination_n_49... [2] https://twitter.com/altinsiderfy/status/1014099884348092418 https://twitter.com/altinsiderfy/status/1014099884348092418 [3] https://twitter.com/345triangle/status/1238776189482754048 https://twitter.com/345triangle/status/1238776189482754048 [4] https://mobile.twitter.com/sanji_kinchan/status/1229568258145021954 https://mobile.twitter.com/sanji_kinchan/status/122956825814... [5] https://mobile.twitter.com/arudoudebito/status/1477052668963000321 https://mobile.twitter.com/arudoudebito/status/1477052668963...
scottLobster 5y ago
Easily solvable if everyone was fine with cultural homogeneity. Turns out there are still plenty of humans that despise the concept.
- ximm 5y ago
  Or if everyone was fine with cultural heterogeneity. You just have to agree on one of these.
- MadSudaca 5y ago
  What is cultural homogeneity?
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  - the_only_law 5y ago
    Closer to an ethnostate.
    - MadSudaca 5y ago
      I think that's the correct term. I don't think there's such a thing as cultural homogeneity. If ethnic japanese start doing weird stuff as judged by "japanese culture", this weird stuff will immediately be considered "japanese culture", thus making "japanese culture" impossible to define precisely.
dominotw 5y ago
wouldn't this divide the world into 1. population production centers like india/africa 2. population absorption centers like usa, japan.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  For a short time, yes. But even India is heading for TFR under 2.0. Subsaharan Africa can, on the other hand, reach up to 4 billion people before the end of the century; almost half of entire humanity.
car_analogy 5y ago
Assuming people are interchangeable, sure. But I would imagine Italians are biased towards fellow Italians. They don't view Italy as just a landmass, but as the people living there.
asdswe 5y ago

the_only_law 5y ago

I’d be willing to immigrate somewhere at least for a while, but ofc, despite being a valued professional I lack the required papers.

kcb 5y ago

Yea...it will take quite a lot of societal change before plenty of young professionals would be happy to immigrate to Japan at least. Terrible work culture and "No Foreigners" signs chief among them.

ineedasername 5y ago
They actually have "no foreigners" signs, or is that more metaphorical? Are they for jobs, or even for shops/businesses?
- ad404b8a372f2b9 5y ago
  For bars often, most often close to US military bases.
- ricktdotorg 5y ago
  it makes you think for a moment when a central government thinks it would be worthwhile to create a map for citizens showing where they might encounter foreigners [0] some examples of no-foreigner signs: from 2014 [1], 2018 [2], COVID [3] [4], New Years Eve 2021 [5] [0] http://thejapanwanko.sub.jp/?p=3255 http://thejapanwanko.sub.jp/?p=3255 [1] https://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2014/03/09/discrimination_n_4928280.html https://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2014/03/09/discrimination_n_49... [2] https://twitter.com/altinsiderfy/status/1014099884348092418 https://twitter.com/altinsiderfy/status/1014099884348092418 [3] https://twitter.com/345triangle/status/1238776189482754048 https://twitter.com/345triangle/status/1238776189482754048 [4] https://mobile.twitter.com/sanji_kinchan/status/1229568258145021954 https://mobile.twitter.com/sanji_kinchan/status/122956825814... [5] https://mobile.twitter.com/arudoudebito/status/1477052668963000321 https://mobile.twitter.com/arudoudebito/status/1477052668963...

scottLobster 5y ago

Easily solvable if everyone was fine with cultural homogeneity. Turns out there are still plenty of humans that despise the concept.

ximm 5y ago
Or if everyone was fine with cultural heterogeneity. You just have to agree on one of these.
MadSudaca 5y ago
What is cultural homogeneity?
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- the_only_law 5y ago
  Closer to an ethnostate.
  - MadSudaca 5y ago
    I think that's the correct term. I don't think there's such a thing as cultural homogeneity. If ethnic japanese start doing weird stuff as judged by "japanese culture", this weird stuff will immediately be considered "japanese culture", thus making "japanese culture" impossible to define precisely.

dominotw 5y ago

wouldn't this divide the world into 1. population production centers like india/africa 2. population absorption centers like usa, japan.

inglor_cz 5y ago
For a short time, yes. But even India is heading for TFR under 2.0. Subsaharan Africa can, on the other hand, reach up to 4 billion people before the end of the century; almost half of entire humanity.

car_analogy 5y ago

Assuming people are interchangeable, sure. But I would imagine Italians are biased towards fellow Italians. They don't view Italy as just a landmass, but as the people living there.

asdswe 5y ago