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I didn't want to get in an argument with with you because you seem to presume A LOT. So much "we" and "people" in your posts. This is one of the reasons your ta

by oblak 4y ago

I didn't want to get in an argument with with you because you seem to presume A LOT. So much "we" and "people" in your posts. This is one of the reasons your take frustrated me as much as it did. Mid 20s, still high on hormons? The way you argue is pointing out things that you do, and applying said behaviours to everyone else, or at least the the people on this site. Again, very frustrating. I, for one, do not drive a car. Nor does my wife. We only use our tiny - by your US standards - every few months, and just for a few hundred kilometers. So yeah, you don't get to tell me how much I pollute or waste because you don't know me. I didn't say anything about cars until now but I hate almost everything them and especially the people who "can't imagine life without" them. Your initial post was a really bad take. At least admit to that. My response was a shit one. See, if I can take some responsibility, so can you

epistasis 4y ago
Environmental protection is not something that's solved by personal choice, it's solved by changing our system to a circular economy. Perhaps individual choice can pioneer new ways to live, and demonstrate that other lifestyles are possible that are just as fulfilling and convenient as more environmentally damaging ones. But in the end, environmental protection is a "we" and "people" problem not a "me" or "I" problem. I did not make the post you were responding to. So asking me to take responsibility, accusing me of being young and full of hormones, is yet more of a shit post in your part. I tend to find that in my (many more than 20) years on this planet that when responding to someone, the utmost important thing to speak the truth, and secondly to respond in kind in order to be most likely to understood by the person you are talking to. So if you apologize for your post, I too apologize for responding in kind.
- oblak 4y ago
  Fair enough. I had no idea I wasn't talking to "maxerickson". The 20s and the request for an apology thing was aimed at that person's initial comment that I responded directly to. Your contribution did not ask for that. I am sorry. I do agree policy is the most important factor. But policy is not created in a complete vacuum. What the vast majority of people do and think is important. The outrageous amounts of perfectly good plastic that is thrown away is criminal. Just for food alone. Dear god. Downplaying all this completely unnecessary waste because car fuel, tires and brakes pollute as well is odd. Especially given the fact that plastic waste is not just containers dumped in a landfill. Plastic bags are fucking disgusting and their remnants have be found virtually everywhere on the planet, including oceans, mountains, and jungles.

by oblak 4y ago

epistasis 4y ago

Environmental protection is not something that's solved by personal choice, it's solved by changing our system to a circular economy. Perhaps individual choice can pioneer new ways to live, and demonstrate that other lifestyles are possible that are just as fulfilling and convenient as more environmentally damaging ones. But in the end, environmental protection is a "we" and "people" problem not a "me" or "I" problem. I did not make the post you were responding to. So asking me to take responsibility, accusing me of being young and full of hormones, is yet more of a shit post in your part. I tend to find that in my (many more than 20) years on this planet that when responding to someone, the utmost important thing to speak the truth, and secondly to respond in kind in order to be most likely to understood by the person you are talking to. So if you apologize for your post, I too apologize for responding in kind.

oblak 4y ago
Fair enough. I had no idea I wasn't talking to "maxerickson". The 20s and the request for an apology thing was aimed at that person's initial comment that I responded directly to. Your contribution did not ask for that. I am sorry. I do agree policy is the most important factor. But policy is not created in a complete vacuum. What the vast majority of people do and think is important. The outrageous amounts of perfectly good plastic that is thrown away is criminal. Just for food alone. Dear god. Downplaying all this completely unnecessary waste because car fuel, tires and brakes pollute as well is odd. Especially given the fact that plastic waste is not just containers dumped in a landfill. Plastic bags are fucking disgusting and their remnants have be found virtually everywhere on the planet, including oceans, mountains, and jungles.