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Unfortunately, even if the Dredge Act is repealed and everything got dredged, Climate Change will raise sea levels and change the course of rivers, probably mak

Unfortunately, even if the Dredge Act is repealed and everything got dredged, Climate Change will raise sea levels and change the course of rivers, probably making the investment in dredging worse than a wash. I apologize in advance for this rant. My alternative idea is going to be unpopular. How about we take what we've figured our about what's causing Climate Change, where all those things actually are, and stop it all immediately, by force if necessary, and just deal with the interruption in luxury. And then we immediately figure out another way for all the things. And make the uber rich pay for it all. I mean... would it take more than 10 years to get back to where we were without killing the planet and everything on it? I could go 10 years without electricity, nearly everybody could, but it wouldn't even be remotely like that, we'd just have a lot less power for a while. Really, I feel like if the air was right now actually smokey everywhere from pollution from burning bunker fuel, and temperatures were insane, shippers would still want to dredge because they are losing money. I think the author has great points, and I like his style, I just don't give a damn about... Goddamn ships. Oh, those poor shipping companies, and those poor poor consumers.

whb07 5y ago
Makes you wonder why the elites who push climate change and rising sea levels are all buying premium beach front properties around the world! I’m still waiting for the earth to freeze over according to the “agreed science” from the 1970s-80s.
- Maursault 5y ago
  > I’m still waiting for the earth to freeze over according to the “agreed science” from the 1970s-80s. I think that occurs immediately after fresh water dilutes the oceans and shuts down the Thermohaline circulation. Europe freezes, then everything else freezes. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation#Shutdown_of_the_thermohaline_circulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturnin...
nivenkos 5y ago
The uber rich decide the laws and control the government and security forces though so that will never happen. Instead you end up with hypocritical rules against normal people like in the lockdowns where you could still travel abroad if owned multiple houses, etc. - like now how the EU has introduced fuel duty on airlines, but not on private jets. And reducing supply lines leads to supply-side inflation like we're seeing in Europe now - 10+% inflation, interest rates going up, possible rationing coming in winter, etc. - no-one wants that. I'd just try not to worry about it, we can't change anything anyway. Just focus on what you can do yourself, like trying to work remotely to buy a house in a less affected area, etc.
- TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
  > I could go 10 years without electricity, nearly everybody could During the power crisis in Texas in February 2021 some homes and businesses were without power for several days, resulting in at least 246 deaths, with some estimates as high as 702 killed as a result of the crisis.[1] 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power
  - Maursault 5y ago
    False equivalency. I did not suggest waiting for extreme conditions of inclement weather before pulling the electricity out from under intensive care units without notice. We have this tool we can use to mitigate anything like that from happening. It's called a plan.
    - TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
      I replied to the wrong comment, but you found it anyways... Ah, righteo, a plan. You did write immeidately and by force, which sounded less like a plan.
      - Maursault 5y ago
        You should have assumed the opposite. How many successful military operations are you aware of that were not planned, and/or that waited around and took their sweet time?
Kim_Bruning 5y ago
Actually climate change means more demand for dredgers, especially for things like sand suppletion. Without sand suppletion some places (eg. parts of the netherlands below sea level) would not be able to protect their coastline, which can (worst case) lead to the loss of towns and cities. A lot of operations involving the sea, coast, and sand are not one off operations. It's more a case of continuous maintenance and vigilence.

whb07 5y ago

Makes you wonder why the elites who push climate change and rising sea levels are all buying premium beach front properties around the world! I’m still waiting for the earth to freeze over according to the “agreed science” from the 1970s-80s.

Maursault 5y ago
> I’m still waiting for the earth to freeze over according to the “agreed science” from the 1970s-80s. I think that occurs immediately after fresh water dilutes the oceans and shuts down the Thermohaline circulation. Europe freezes, then everything else freezes. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation#Shutdown_of_the_thermohaline_circulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturnin...

nivenkos 5y ago

The uber rich decide the laws and control the government and security forces though so that will never happen. Instead you end up with hypocritical rules against normal people like in the lockdowns where you could still travel abroad if owned multiple houses, etc. - like now how the EU has introduced fuel duty on airlines, but not on private jets. And reducing supply lines leads to supply-side inflation like we're seeing in Europe now - 10+% inflation, interest rates going up, possible rationing coming in winter, etc. - no-one wants that. I'd just try not to worry about it, we can't change anything anyway. Just focus on what you can do yourself, like trying to work remotely to buy a house in a less affected area, etc.

TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
> I could go 10 years without electricity, nearly everybody could During the power crisis in Texas in February 2021 some homes and businesses were without power for several days, resulting in at least 246 deaths, with some estimates as high as 702 killed as a result of the crisis.[1] 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Texas_power
- Maursault 5y ago
  False equivalency. I did not suggest waiting for extreme conditions of inclement weather before pulling the electricity out from under intensive care units without notice. We have this tool we can use to mitigate anything like that from happening. It's called a plan.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 5y ago
    I replied to the wrong comment, but you found it anyways... Ah, righteo, a plan. You did write immeidately and by force, which sounded less like a plan.
    - Maursault 5y ago
      You should have assumed the opposite. How many successful military operations are you aware of that were not planned, and/or that waited around and took their sweet time?

Kim_Bruning 5y ago

Actually climate change means more demand for dredgers, especially for things like sand suppletion. Without sand suppletion some places (eg. parts of the netherlands below sea level) would not be able to protect their coastline, which can (worst case) lead to the loss of towns and cities. A lot of operations involving the sea, coast, and sand are not one off operations. It's more a case of continuous maintenance and vigilence.