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Stop caring. Seriously, no one’s life has been harmed by tracking cookies. The fears are overblown. Plus we can find alternative ways to track people. Aside fr

by xwdv 5y ago

Stop caring. Seriously, no one’s life has been harmed by tracking cookies. The fears are overblown. Plus we can find alternative ways to track people. Aside from that, most people just consent to cookies anyway, and they’re fine.

anonymousab 5y ago
Nah. Put a thumb in the eye of the advertising industry at every chance, at every step, and take joy at the occasional sight of their simmering rage boiling to the surface at their annual conferences.
- 10amxn10 5y ago
  Nope. Most of the services you use are supported by advertising, including this very site. Thankfully these out of touch, delusional opinions are a minority. The objective is to reduce the need for advertising, whenever possible (most of the time, it's not).
  - dns_snek 5y ago
    > Most of the services you use are supported by advertising Advertising (static banners, in-house analytics by different companies) is fine but tracking the entire human population across the entire web and aggregating the data is not. Things might seem stable right now, but do you really trust corporations and governments to keep that data safe in perpetuity and to never use it for nefarious purposes? To give you an example, right now you have the US on backwards path of banning abortions, how would you feel about the government using browsing history and analytics collected by Google and other corporations to track down women who are seeking or thinking about an abortion? Regimes and laws change, data stays forever. > Thankfully these out of touch, delusional opinions are a minority. Considering the progress we're making with EU regulations such as GDPR, you're certainly wrong. People are starting to become more informed with every passing year and are starting to pay more attention. Industry practices are also slowly changing to make it easier to opt-out of intrusive tracking, which is a net win even for those who don't pay much attention to their privacy posture. We're going in the right direction.
    - 10amxn10 5y ago
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dns_snek 5y ago
> Seriously, no one’s life has been harmed by tracking cookies. I would argue that privacy is a basic human right and tracking (stalking) should be taken seriously. Would you say the same thing about stalkers following you on the street, watching you from a distance and browsing through your trash? As long as they don't do anything to you, is it all okay? No, it's not and you would get a restraining order (i.e. GDPR) > The fears are overblown. Plus we can find alternative ways to track people. Yeah that's not creepy at all.
- xwdv 5y ago
  The only reason to get a restraining order is if it is highly likely they will do something to you. If you can guarantee they will not do anything and are just collecting information for some other purpose, then no it doesn’t matter.
  - dns_snek 5y ago
    If you have no problem with "harmless" collection of information, will you let me install a webcam in your bedroom and a microphone in your kitchen?
Kim_Bruning 5y ago
Entire populations have been wiped out on the basis of _much_ less invasive data-gathering (eg. an innocuous question about faith on a census). All forms of PII-gathering are potentially dangerous and needs to be regulated. Do we really need to have a discussion about "but what if we do it this way? " "what if we do it this other fractionally different way?". https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/70/the-amsterdam-municipality-maps-out-where-the-jews-live/ https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/70/the-amsterdam-munic...

by xwdv 5y ago

anonymousab 5y ago

Nah. Put a thumb in the eye of the advertising industry at every chance, at every step, and take joy at the occasional sight of their simmering rage boiling to the surface at their annual conferences.

10amxn10 5y ago
Nope. Most of the services you use are supported by advertising, including this very site. Thankfully these out of touch, delusional opinions are a minority. The objective is to reduce the need for advertising, whenever possible (most of the time, it's not).
- dns_snek 5y ago
  > Most of the services you use are supported by advertising Advertising (static banners, in-house analytics by different companies) is fine but tracking the entire human population across the entire web and aggregating the data is not. Things might seem stable right now, but do you really trust corporations and governments to keep that data safe in perpetuity and to never use it for nefarious purposes? To give you an example, right now you have the US on backwards path of banning abortions, how would you feel about the government using browsing history and analytics collected by Google and other corporations to track down women who are seeking or thinking about an abortion? Regimes and laws change, data stays forever. > Thankfully these out of touch, delusional opinions are a minority. Considering the progress we're making with EU regulations such as GDPR, you're certainly wrong. People are starting to become more informed with every passing year and are starting to pay more attention. Industry practices are also slowly changing to make it easier to opt-out of intrusive tracking, which is a net win even for those who don't pay much attention to their privacy posture. We're going in the right direction.
  - 10amxn10 5y ago

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dns_snek 5y ago

> Seriously, no one’s life has been harmed by tracking cookies. I would argue that privacy is a basic human right and tracking (stalking) should be taken seriously. Would you say the same thing about stalkers following you on the street, watching you from a distance and browsing through your trash? As long as they don't do anything to you, is it all okay? No, it's not and you would get a restraining order (i.e. GDPR) > The fears are overblown. Plus we can find alternative ways to track people. Yeah that's not creepy at all.

xwdv 5y ago
The only reason to get a restraining order is if it is highly likely they will do something to you. If you can guarantee they will not do anything and are just collecting information for some other purpose, then no it doesn’t matter.
- dns_snek 5y ago
  If you have no problem with "harmless" collection of information, will you let me install a webcam in your bedroom and a microphone in your kitchen?

Kim_Bruning 5y ago

Entire populations have been wiped out on the basis of _much_ less invasive data-gathering (eg. an innocuous question about faith on a census). All forms of PII-gathering are potentially dangerous and needs to be regulated. Do we really need to have a discussion about "but what if we do it this way? " "what if we do it this other fractionally different way?". https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/70/the-amsterdam-municipality-maps-out-where-the-jews-live/ https://www.annefrank.org/en/timeline/70/the-amsterdam-munic...