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This was the pre-Brexit fantasy scenario. Despite the UK exiting from the EU, and therefore no longer benefiting from its trade agreements effective 1st Januar

This was the pre-Brexit fantasy scenario. Despite the UK exiting from the EU, and therefore no longer benefiting from its trade agreements effective 1st January 2021, from your list of countries the UK has only successfully ratified trade agreements with Switzerland and Singapore. There is also a provisional agreement with Norway. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-agreements-with-non-eu-countries https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade-agreements-with-non-eu-...

blibble 4y ago
I suggest you look at the EU list the EU still hasn't ratified the Canada deal from 2017 in that time the UK managed to exit the EU, negotiate and ratify the Canada deal
- dijit 4y ago
  The Canada trade deal is a "continuation" deal (as described by the UK Govt in a link I will post at the end of this comment) which basically sets terms to be the same as the EU's currently existing deal before free trade: IE, it's not free trade (though; not that you claimed it was). I believe it's rather disingenuous to describe a continuation deal as a "deal" since essentially it's... a continuation. But it's good that we have them. FWIW: Negotiations are underway right now between Canada and the UK though, from the UK Governments own website: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-launches-negotiations-with-canada-on-a-new-modernised-trade-deal https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-launches-negotiations-...
  - blibble 4y ago
    yet somehow the UK managed to get the deal ratified, but the EU hasn't been able to
    - dijit 4y ago
      the... same deal the EU currently has? Yes, that's ratified. Both with the EU and the UK. Because that's what the "continuance" was. Canada _does_ have a trade deal with the EU, there's a more comprehensive Free-Trade (IE; not just a Trade agreement like the UK's) one that's on the table since 2016 but is actually already in active use, despite not being officially ratified. But that's different to the one that the UK has "continued".
      - blibble 4y ago
        > despite not being officially ratified yes, which was what this entire thread was about we got there eventually
        dijit 4y ago
        But the UK hasn't got the same one? It's not the same thing? Am I talking to a brick wall? Do you understand that the UK's deal is the same as what the EU had before the <<NEW DEAL>> that has yet to be ratified (but is in effect). And yes, it makes sense that it's quicker to say "we continue what we're doing" than it is to hash out a new trade agreement, especially a free trade agreement.

blibble 4y ago

I suggest you look at the EU list the EU still hasn't ratified the Canada deal from 2017 in that time the UK managed to exit the EU, negotiate and ratify the Canada deal

dijit 4y ago
The Canada trade deal is a "continuation" deal (as described by the UK Govt in a link I will post at the end of this comment) which basically sets terms to be the same as the EU's currently existing deal before free trade: IE, it's not free trade (though; not that you claimed it was). I believe it's rather disingenuous to describe a continuation deal as a "deal" since essentially it's... a continuation. But it's good that we have them. FWIW: Negotiations are underway right now between Canada and the UK though, from the UK Governments own website: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-launches-negotiations-with-canada-on-a-new-modernised-trade-deal https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-launches-negotiations-...
- blibble 4y ago
  yet somehow the UK managed to get the deal ratified, but the EU hasn't been able to
  - dijit 4y ago
    the... same deal the EU currently has? Yes, that's ratified. Both with the EU and the UK. Because that's what the "continuance" was. Canada _does_ have a trade deal with the EU, there's a more comprehensive Free-Trade (IE; not just a Trade agreement like the UK's) one that's on the table since 2016 but is actually already in active use, despite not being officially ratified. But that's different to the one that the UK has "continued".
    - blibble 4y ago
      > despite not being officially ratified yes, which was what this entire thread was about we got there eventually
      - dijit 4y ago
        But the UK hasn't got the same one? It's not the same thing? Am I talking to a brick wall? Do you understand that the UK's deal is the same as what the EU had before the <<NEW DEAL>> that has yet to be ratified (but is in effect). And yes, it makes sense that it's quicker to say "we continue what we're doing" than it is to hash out a new trade agreement, especially a free trade agreement.