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I am a small farmer that raises turkeys periodically, when there aren’t any more in the freezer. I would not hesitate to grab an attacking wild turkey by the n

I am a small farmer that raises turkeys periodically, when there aren’t any more in the freezer. I would not hesitate to grab an attacking wild turkey by the neck and tearing its head clean off. Hold it upside down to drain the carcass, and you’re halfway home to roasting it for an excellent meal. No joke. I’m guessing that the local Fish and Wildlife Department might frown on that approach to solving the problem, but I would argue that they should have gotten off their asses and dealt with it.

Fargoan 4y ago
gcheong 4y ago
Is it that easy to grab one that's coming after you by the neck without risking getting spurred? I agree that the idea that in an urban setting you couldn't deal with the problem without involving half a dozen agencies is rather ridiculous though.
- voakbasda 4y ago
  Yes, there's some risk of getting beat up a bit, so it would be ideal to be wearing gloves and coveralls. I would not let that slow me down though, but I have experience with catching them in midair while they are coming at me. Mostly, it's a matter of being confident and moving quickly. You can expect to get hurt if your movements and reactions are slower than the bird; above all, do not let it gain the initiative or advantage. The same approach will help you to avoid running into any issues with the relevant government agencies. They won't charge you if they don't catch you. Wear an orange vest over the coveralls, and it's likely no one will even question your actions.
0des 4y ago
> I’m guessing that the local Fish and Wildlife Department might frown on that approach to solving the problem I may be mistaken, but I think you are allowed to defend yourself regardless of season. Think about it, boars and bear, equally lethal in or out of season, some might argue bear are worse during off season due to cubs and such. Now if they catch you red handed with a bottle of tabasco, your goose may be cooked so to speak.
- voakbasda 4y ago
  I expect you would be in trouble taking a turkey in this manner, because these birds are hardly a lethal threat. Sure, you might get a few cuts, but you can easily avoid or evade their attacks. If you engage when not strictly necessary, you are likely to be portrayed as the aggressor. The consequences may not be as severe as you might expect from a similar encounter and use of lethal force on a human, but I think in both cases you are expected to walk away from the situation if that option is available to you. I believe in standing your ground, but I don’t live in a state with such laws. Even if I did, you can still expect a lengthy legal process to resolve the dispute. I would expect this to be true regardless of whether you proactively kill a human or a turkey in self defense. You had better be prepared to make a compelling defense of your actions, unless the circumstances are clearly beyond reproach. And they never are anymore, since the lawyers stand to profit by arguing the case.
  - nullc 4y ago
    Now I want to read a court case where someone attempts to defend themselves against game law prosecution with a stand-your-ground law.

Fargoan 4y ago

gcheong 4y ago

Is it that easy to grab one that's coming after you by the neck without risking getting spurred? I agree that the idea that in an urban setting you couldn't deal with the problem without involving half a dozen agencies is rather ridiculous though.

voakbasda 4y ago
Yes, there's some risk of getting beat up a bit, so it would be ideal to be wearing gloves and coveralls. I would not let that slow me down though, but I have experience with catching them in midair while they are coming at me. Mostly, it's a matter of being confident and moving quickly. You can expect to get hurt if your movements and reactions are slower than the bird; above all, do not let it gain the initiative or advantage. The same approach will help you to avoid running into any issues with the relevant government agencies. They won't charge you if they don't catch you. Wear an orange vest over the coveralls, and it's likely no one will even question your actions.

0des 4y ago

> I’m guessing that the local Fish and Wildlife Department might frown on that approach to solving the problem I may be mistaken, but I think you are allowed to defend yourself regardless of season. Think about it, boars and bear, equally lethal in or out of season, some might argue bear are worse during off season due to cubs and such. Now if they catch you red handed with a bottle of tabasco, your goose may be cooked so to speak.

voakbasda 4y ago
I expect you would be in trouble taking a turkey in this manner, because these birds are hardly a lethal threat. Sure, you might get a few cuts, but you can easily avoid or evade their attacks. If you engage when not strictly necessary, you are likely to be portrayed as the aggressor. The consequences may not be as severe as you might expect from a similar encounter and use of lethal force on a human, but I think in both cases you are expected to walk away from the situation if that option is available to you. I believe in standing your ground, but I don’t live in a state with such laws. Even if I did, you can still expect a lengthy legal process to resolve the dispute. I would expect this to be true regardless of whether you proactively kill a human or a turkey in self defense. You had better be prepared to make a compelling defense of your actions, unless the circumstances are clearly beyond reproach. And they never are anymore, since the lawyers stand to profit by arguing the case.
- nullc 4y ago
  Now I want to read a court case where someone attempts to defend themselves against game law prosecution with a stand-your-ground law.