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How Rivian’s CEO became the anti-Elon

9 points by jpm_sd 4y ago

xiphias2 4y ago
At this point Tesla is winning the battery cell technology race as well, I don't see how Rivian with its luxury products can be even compared to it.
jpm_sd 4y ago
https://archive.ph/w2Eke https://archive.ph/w2Eke
Shadonototra 4y ago
how the media are picturing rivian's ceo as anti-elon again, fabricated competition pre-order industry, never deliver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zvvlrd-jw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zvvlrd-jw i find this video interesting, i'm surprised it's still available, denounces issues, at the same time he promotes the problem in his videos ;) on top of silencing foreign actors (EU-Asia), obviously!
- MangoCoffee 4y ago
  Rivian have its own problems and growing pains that Tesla endured. if Rivian CEO is really anti Elon. he will done better but apparently not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-JLrv39AU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-JLrv39AU
edmcnulty101 4y ago
Weird how Elon is in the spotlight in such a negative way all of a sudden.
- almost_usual 4y ago
  All of a sudden?
  - edmcnulty101 4y ago
    'negatively' all of a sudden.
- deleted 4y ago
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- TMWNN 4y ago
  Indeed. One example from today's New York Times: "Elon Musk Left a South Africa That Was Rife With Misinformation and White Privilege (<https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/world/africa/elon-musk-south-africa.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/world/africa/elon-musk-so...>) You know that the Times has overreached its agenda-pushing when commenters call the paper out, as they do in this case.
foolzcrow 4y ago
prepend 4y ago
> The R1T explodes — and I mean explodes — down the pavement. We go from zero to well above 60 miles per hour in what seems like an instant. The G force feels tremendous. It’s too much raw power for me. I immediately feel nauseous, like I might pass out. I was wondering what this speed may be and it seems like it’s between 3.1-3.3 seconds depending on the specific mode [0]. It’s surprising to see such lazy journalism in FT. This is certainly a fast time, but the Tesla s has been around for a while and they have a 2s time. Porsche Taycan has 2.4s. So this description is more a failure of the reporter rather than a useful description of the truck’s capabilities. [0] https://www.0-60specs.com/rivian/r1t-0-60-times/ https://www.0-60specs.com/rivian/r1t-0-60-times/
- I_DRINK_KOOLAID 4y ago
  Don't ever trust US publications with 0-60 times. They do those trials at quarter mile tracks. There is barely any asphalt left there it's all tire rubble which increase the grip especially on launch. The real data is from UK/DE magazines, they try on highways abandoned airstrips. Going below 3.5s in 0-60 acceleration is like going past 225mph on pure speed. It can happen but all conditions have to align perfectly , hence it's not real world conditions.
  - justin66 4y ago
    Significant differences can be due to some publications using 1-foot rollout when recording times and others not using it.
- justin66 4y ago
  There is nothing inaccurate about what you've quoted. It hurt your feelings the reporter did not mention a car you admire more? Seriously?
  - prepend 4y ago
    My feelings aren’t hurt and I don’t admire any of these cars. The article wasted my time by making me research stuff that should be in the article. It’s ok to criticize things you think are bad.
sircastor 4y ago
I just saw a Rivian Truck in the wild while I was on vacation this last week. I was really surprised as I hadn't realized they were shipping yet. It was exciting to see it, as I've been interested in the 2nd generation of new EV companies (Basically companies founded to make EVs following Tesla's success, not historic Auto makers) and whether or not they have a product to ship. A former coworker of mine left our old-world automaker employer to work at Rivian. I was interested in pursuing something similar, but at the time it would've meant moving.
- beej71 4y ago
  I just saw my first one yesterday, too. And right after binging Long Way Up. :)
- dr_ 4y ago
  Yea, I've started seeing them in NYC
meibo 4y ago
I keep wondering when all of his lies will finally backfire, but it really seems like that's never gonna happen
- alphabettsy 4y ago
  Who and what are you referring to?
belter 4y ago
From the FT, a publication I respect and that normally does good research, this is very disappointing. Looks like nothing more than a puff piece, and the critical questions around battery supply were not touched. Funny enough, it makes Rivian CEO look 'like' Elon Musk instead of the opposite.

9 points by jpm_sd 4y ago

At this point Tesla is winning the battery cell technology race as well, I don't see how Rivian with its luxury products can be even compared to it.

jpm_sd 4y ago

https://archive.ph/w2Eke https://archive.ph/w2Eke

Shadonototra 4y ago

how the media are picturing rivian's ceo as anti-elon again, fabricated competition pre-order industry, never deliver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zvvlrd-jw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zvvlrd-jw i find this video interesting, i'm surprised it's still available, denounces issues, at the same time he promotes the problem in his videos ;) on top of silencing foreign actors (EU-Asia), obviously!

MangoCoffee 4y ago
Rivian have its own problems and growing pains that Tesla endured. if Rivian CEO is really anti Elon. he will done better but apparently not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-JLrv39AU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-JLrv39AU

edmcnulty101 4y ago

Weird how Elon is in the spotlight in such a negative way all of a sudden.

almost_usual 4y ago
All of a sudden?
- edmcnulty101 4y ago
  'negatively' all of a sudden.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
TMWNN 4y ago
Indeed. One example from today's New York Times: "Elon Musk Left a South Africa That Was Rife With Misinformation and White Privilege (<https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/world/africa/elon-musk-south-africa.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/world/africa/elon-musk-so...>) You know that the Times has overreached its agenda-pushing when commenters call the paper out, as they do in this case.

foolzcrow 4y ago

prepend 4y ago

> The R1T explodes — and I mean explodes — down the pavement. We go from zero to well above 60 miles per hour in what seems like an instant. The G force feels tremendous. It’s too much raw power for me. I immediately feel nauseous, like I might pass out. I was wondering what this speed may be and it seems like it’s between 3.1-3.3 seconds depending on the specific mode [0]. It’s surprising to see such lazy journalism in FT. This is certainly a fast time, but the Tesla s has been around for a while and they have a 2s time. Porsche Taycan has 2.4s. So this description is more a failure of the reporter rather than a useful description of the truck’s capabilities. [0] https://www.0-60specs.com/rivian/r1t-0-60-times/ https://www.0-60specs.com/rivian/r1t-0-60-times/

I_DRINK_KOOLAID 4y ago
Don't ever trust US publications with 0-60 times. They do those trials at quarter mile tracks. There is barely any asphalt left there it's all tire rubble which increase the grip especially on launch. The real data is from UK/DE magazines, they try on highways abandoned airstrips. Going below 3.5s in 0-60 acceleration is like going past 225mph on pure speed. It can happen but all conditions have to align perfectly , hence it's not real world conditions.
- justin66 4y ago
  Significant differences can be due to some publications using 1-foot rollout when recording times and others not using it.
justin66 4y ago
There is nothing inaccurate about what you've quoted. It hurt your feelings the reporter did not mention a car you admire more? Seriously?
- prepend 4y ago
  My feelings aren’t hurt and I don’t admire any of these cars. The article wasted my time by making me research stuff that should be in the article. It’s ok to criticize things you think are bad.

sircastor 4y ago

I just saw a Rivian Truck in the wild while I was on vacation this last week. I was really surprised as I hadn't realized they were shipping yet. It was exciting to see it, as I've been interested in the 2nd generation of new EV companies (Basically companies founded to make EVs following Tesla's success, not historic Auto makers) and whether or not they have a product to ship. A former coworker of mine left our old-world automaker employer to work at Rivian. I was interested in pursuing something similar, but at the time it would've meant moving.

beej71 4y ago
I just saw my first one yesterday, too. And right after binging Long Way Up. :)
dr_ 4y ago
Yea, I've started seeing them in NYC

meibo 4y ago

I keep wondering when all of his lies will finally backfire, but it really seems like that's never gonna happen

alphabettsy 4y ago
Who and what are you referring to?

belter 4y ago

From the FT, a publication I respect and that normally does good research, this is very disappointing. Looks like nothing more than a puff piece, and the critical questions around battery supply were not touched. Funny enough, it makes Rivian CEO look 'like' Elon Musk instead of the opposite.