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Nothing I've used since has the same level of rapid prototyping and development VB6 made possible with its GUI. Debugging as well was a breeze. VB's inherited c

Nothing I've used since has the same level of rapid prototyping and development VB6 made possible with its GUI. Debugging as well was a breeze. VB's inherited commands of string manipulation made possible a lot of niche parsing/conversion utilities I wrote for companies.

7thaccount 4y ago
You should check out Rebol. You can do Tetris in like half a page of code.
- exikyut 4y ago
  *Idly checks out where it's at* :( Last modified March 2014: https://github.com/rebol/rebol https://github.com/rebol/rebol And that's still just REBOL/Core, not REBOL/View.
  - Rexxar 4y ago
    It seems there is a very active fork : https://github.com/metaeducation/ren-c https://github.com/metaeducation/ren-c The merge request will be a little challenging if someone dares to try : "This branch is 6513 commits ahead, 14 commits behind rebolsource/r3:master"
  - 7thaccount 4y ago
    http://rebol.com/pre-view.html http://rebol.com/pre-view.html This is all I was trying to convey. Yes, it's not getting as much love and care as it deserves.
JohnBooty 4y ago
Back in the 90s fresh out of college I remember writing routines to validate phone numbers and email addresses and stuff like that in VisualBasic. Yeah, I didn't know about regular expressions at the time.... (facepalm) ...I was really just writing these things in straight up VB. I'm not knocking what you were doing; I'm sure you had the sense to use regex or something. I did not. lol
datavirtue 4y ago
I think Netbeans/Java/Swing comes very close. It's still very much alive and actively developed. Bring in the IntelliJ IDE themes and it's full steam ahead no-bullshit development of cross-platform beauty.
- mkl 4y ago
  "Beauty" it not a word I've ever heard associated with Java GUIs before. From browsing screenshots Swing looks to me like non-native 1990s clunkiness. Am I missing something?
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Yes, the authors of those applications failed to read books like Filthy Rich Clients. https://www.amazon.com/Filthy-Rich-Clients-Developing-Applications/dp/0132413930 https://www.amazon.com/Filthy-Rich-Clients-Developing-Applic...
- anthk 4y ago
  I am not a Pascal developer, but Lazarus + Free Pascal >>>>>>>>> Netbeans and Java. Seriously. Java looks like a turd everywhere and it's laggy and slow even on a mid range machine. On older ones like my Celeron the lag on menues it's noticeable. Also, modern Free Pascal has OOP classes and methods if you like these. If you run software made in Free Pascal like Cartes Du Ciel and them some Java one like Sweet Home 3D, the first one will run circles on snappiness and speed over the second one. IDK how Java can be appreciated, most of its desktop software runs far worse than AMSN over TCL/TK in early/mid 00's under an Athlon.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Also, modern Free Pascal has OOP classes and methods if you like these. The predecessors of Free Pascal had those since the 1980s, it isn't particularly a “modern Free Pascal” innovation.
    - badsectoracula 4y ago
polotics 4y ago
I was the same, but then landed on Jupyter Notebook and the various ways to generate a (passable) GUI out of notebooks. Then I was happy again...

7thaccount 4y ago

You should check out Rebol. You can do Tetris in like half a page of code.

exikyut 4y ago
*Idly checks out where it's at* :( Last modified March 2014: https://github.com/rebol/rebol https://github.com/rebol/rebol And that's still just REBOL/Core, not REBOL/View.
- Rexxar 4y ago
  It seems there is a very active fork : https://github.com/metaeducation/ren-c https://github.com/metaeducation/ren-c The merge request will be a little challenging if someone dares to try : "This branch is 6513 commits ahead, 14 commits behind rebolsource/r3:master"
- 7thaccount 4y ago
  http://rebol.com/pre-view.html http://rebol.com/pre-view.html This is all I was trying to convey. Yes, it's not getting as much love and care as it deserves.

JohnBooty 4y ago

Back in the 90s fresh out of college I remember writing routines to validate phone numbers and email addresses and stuff like that in VisualBasic. Yeah, I didn't know about regular expressions at the time.... (facepalm) ...I was really just writing these things in straight up VB. I'm not knocking what you were doing; I'm sure you had the sense to use regex or something. I did not. lol

datavirtue 4y ago

I think Netbeans/Java/Swing comes very close. It's still very much alive and actively developed. Bring in the IntelliJ IDE themes and it's full steam ahead no-bullshit development of cross-platform beauty.

mkl 4y ago
"Beauty" it not a word I've ever heard associated with Java GUIs before. From browsing screenshots Swing looks to me like non-native 1990s clunkiness. Am I missing something?
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Yes, the authors of those applications failed to read books like Filthy Rich Clients. https://www.amazon.com/Filthy-Rich-Clients-Developing-Applications/dp/0132413930 https://www.amazon.com/Filthy-Rich-Clients-Developing-Applic...
anthk 4y ago
I am not a Pascal developer, but Lazarus + Free Pascal >>>>>>>>> Netbeans and Java. Seriously. Java looks like a turd everywhere and it's laggy and slow even on a mid range machine. On older ones like my Celeron the lag on menues it's noticeable. Also, modern Free Pascal has OOP classes and methods if you like these. If you run software made in Free Pascal like Cartes Du Ciel and them some Java one like Sweet Home 3D, the first one will run circles on snappiness and speed over the second one. IDK how Java can be appreciated, most of its desktop software runs far worse than AMSN over TCL/TK in early/mid 00's under an Athlon.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Also, modern Free Pascal has OOP classes and methods if you like these. The predecessors of Free Pascal had those since the 1980s, it isn't particularly a “modern Free Pascal” innovation.
  - badsectoracula 4y ago

polotics 4y ago

I was the same, but then landed on Jupyter Notebook and the various ways to generate a (passable) GUI out of notebooks. Then I was happy again...