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Budget was under $50k, which you can make in a few months at a tech job. Nice raise will pay for that nicely in no time. If you don't think a lot of places ar

Budget was under $50k, which you can make in a few months at a tech job. Nice raise will pay for that nicely in no time. If you don't think a lot of places aren't gatekeeping on degrees, you haven't looked at many. To be more clear for folks that think it is an absolute filter, of course it is not. I remember about half of hiring pipelines ending on that point last time I was looking. Was 100% of the top companies with too many applicants however.

Arainach 4y ago
There are places that gatekeep on degrees as in "you must have a Bachelor's degree" or even "you must have a B.S. in Computer Science", but there are almost none that are gatekeeping on graduate degrees. I've worked at several FAANG-tier corporations, have friends at all of the others, and have interacted with all sorts of smaller companies. I can count on one hand the number of people I've worked with with graduate degrees, and all of them had their base degree in something other than computer science.
- digisign 4y ago
  Correct for IC jobs. When you want to move up thru the "glass ceiling" to make the real money, guess who they'll pick of two similar candidates? The one with the better degree.
  - Arainach 4y ago
    I'm really not convinced. I looked, and examples of my reporting chain at various points in my career: Company A: Lead (yes, but undergrad in EE), Manager (no), GM (no), VP (?), SVP (no), President (yes), CEO (dropped out of MBA) Company B: Lead (no), Manager (yes), Director (?), Senior Director (no), Senior Director (yes), VP (no), SVP (MBA), CEO (yes) The plural of anecdote is not data, and I'm not a director, but a cursory comparison of senior leadership and LinkedIn doesn't leave me convinced that a graduate degree matters. Most of the folks who have one got one back in the 90s where things were very different.
    - digisign 4y ago
      Degrees are more important today than they were in the past, preferably a brand name one. Part of the reason they have been getting more expensive. https://www.aplu.org/our-work/5-archived-projects/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/employment-earnings.html https://www.aplu.org/our-work/5-archived-projects/college-co... This one says 400k+ higher lifetime earnings with "advanced degree". The source from georgetown says they are less likely to loser their job in a recession as well. No, the real world is not black and white and this is not a guarrantee. But, get an advanced degree looks like an easy power-up at the prices OP was willing to pay.
Redoubts 4y ago
> If you don't think a lot of places aren't gatekeeping on degrees, you haven't looked at many. I can only think of aerospace, and other engineering-not-software companies that do this. They also don’t pay sw developers much to begin with, so this looks like a very false economy.

Arainach 4y ago

There are places that gatekeep on degrees as in "you must have a Bachelor's degree" or even "you must have a B.S. in Computer Science", but there are almost none that are gatekeeping on graduate degrees. I've worked at several FAANG-tier corporations, have friends at all of the others, and have interacted with all sorts of smaller companies. I can count on one hand the number of people I've worked with with graduate degrees, and all of them had their base degree in something other than computer science.

digisign 4y ago
Correct for IC jobs. When you want to move up thru the "glass ceiling" to make the real money, guess who they'll pick of two similar candidates? The one with the better degree.
- Arainach 4y ago
  I'm really not convinced. I looked, and examples of my reporting chain at various points in my career: Company A: Lead (yes, but undergrad in EE), Manager (no), GM (no), VP (?), SVP (no), President (yes), CEO (dropped out of MBA) Company B: Lead (no), Manager (yes), Director (?), Senior Director (no), Senior Director (yes), VP (no), SVP (MBA), CEO (yes) The plural of anecdote is not data, and I'm not a director, but a cursory comparison of senior leadership and LinkedIn doesn't leave me convinced that a graduate degree matters. Most of the folks who have one got one back in the 90s where things were very different.
  - digisign 4y ago
    Degrees are more important today than they were in the past, preferably a brand name one. Part of the reason they have been getting more expensive. https://www.aplu.org/our-work/5-archived-projects/college-costs-tuition-and-financial-aid/publicuvalues/employment-earnings.html https://www.aplu.org/our-work/5-archived-projects/college-co... This one says 400k+ higher lifetime earnings with "advanced degree". The source from georgetown says they are less likely to loser their job in a recession as well. No, the real world is not black and white and this is not a guarrantee. But, get an advanced degree looks like an easy power-up at the prices OP was willing to pay.

Redoubts 4y ago

> If you don't think a lot of places aren't gatekeeping on degrees, you haven't looked at many. I can only think of aerospace, and other engineering-not-software companies that do this. They also don’t pay sw developers much to begin with, so this looks like a very false economy.