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I mean.. "rethrow" sounds fine?

heinrich5991 4y ago
Your comment demonstrates why they chose "yeet". People start discussing the name before the feature, and choosing a name that is obviously not the final one lets them say "look, you don't have to discuss this yet".
- School-Cotton 4y ago
  Well, if they wanted people not to discuss the name, picking a polarizing, very distinctive, extremely annoying name is about the worst thing they could have done, even as a temporary placeholder.
fhars 4y ago
They haven't even decided if this should be a language feature at all, an you are already bikeshedding the name...
- rocqua 4y ago
  Bikeshedding from the outside is fine. As long as actual decision makers and productive project members aren't participating, bikeshedding can even be fun.
  - themulticaster 4y ago
    Be careful with that - some Rust team members are active around HN [1], some are even participating in the comment section for this post. So I guess we need to exclude them from the outsider-exclusive bikeshedding event. I agree, bikeshedding can be fun, as long as it's not during a meeting. [1] Steve Klabnik, I know you're going to see this - just wanted to say hi, I hope you're having a nice day :)
    - steveklabnik 4y ago
      I'm doing okay, thanks! I'm not on any Rust teams, anymore, though. There are some other folks around so your point isn't incorrect, only about me.
- sgtnoodle 4y ago
  It's not really my place to warn you since it's not my problem, but I take exception to your assertion that the poster is in error. I think we should raise the bar, and check ourselves when being too critical. Try not to panic when other folk throw out ideas, even when you find fault in them. I didn't expect this to be a political topic, unlike abortion the last few days. Yeetsh! I've been recently working on a new system that involves a custom IDL. We ended up adding a "[<=]" syntax, but we were worried it would be confusing to new developers. We realized it would make people happy to have an excuse to type smiley faces, though.
  - sgtnoodle 4y ago
    I guess folk here don't like puns.
efaref 4y ago
It's not necessarily a "re-"throw. It could just be a throw of a newly detected error, like: try { if bad_thing { do yeet Error::new(...); } carry_on() } Just plain "throw" would probably be fine, but I understand not wanting to bikeshed it at this stage. Weirdly, "yeet" really does convey the sense of "just give up and chuck this thing back instead" that makes it a reasonable nice converse of "try", i.e. "try { yeet }".
dathinab 4y ago
Bikeshedding is a major pain for developing in large projects. Naming bikeshedding is one of the worst kind of bikeshedding. By now I'm sure of two things: - People will not agree on a name. - People will diverge any technical discussion again and again and again because they need to discuss naming. So in the end most likely there will be some formal or informal survey and then the language teem will do a top-down decisions for one of the more well liked candidates, it's as far as I can tell pretty much the best way to go. (Theoretically you could have a vote, but then you need a proper not easily manipulated voting system people need to take serious, or it will be named not yeet in the end because people are trolls). EDIT: Also this is not a developer discussion so I guess it's fine here ;)
TheCycoONE 4y ago
Oh, if we're bike shedding I propose ¿ as the natural syntax (because it jumps to ?.) /s

Your comment demonstrates why they chose "yeet". People start discussing the name before the feature, and choosing a name that is obviously not the final one lets them say "look, you don't have to discuss this yet".

School-Cotton 4y ago
Well, if they wanted people not to discuss the name, picking a polarizing, very distinctive, extremely annoying name is about the worst thing they could have done, even as a temporary placeholder.

fhars 4y ago

They haven't even decided if this should be a language feature at all, an you are already bikeshedding the name...

rocqua 4y ago
Bikeshedding from the outside is fine. As long as actual decision makers and productive project members aren't participating, bikeshedding can even be fun.
- themulticaster 4y ago
  Be careful with that - some Rust team members are active around HN [1], some are even participating in the comment section for this post. So I guess we need to exclude them from the outsider-exclusive bikeshedding event. I agree, bikeshedding can be fun, as long as it's not during a meeting. [1] Steve Klabnik, I know you're going to see this - just wanted to say hi, I hope you're having a nice day :)
  - steveklabnik 4y ago
    I'm doing okay, thanks! I'm not on any Rust teams, anymore, though. There are some other folks around so your point isn't incorrect, only about me.
sgtnoodle 4y ago
It's not really my place to warn you since it's not my problem, but I take exception to your assertion that the poster is in error. I think we should raise the bar, and check ourselves when being too critical. Try not to panic when other folk throw out ideas, even when you find fault in them. I didn't expect this to be a political topic, unlike abortion the last few days. Yeetsh! I've been recently working on a new system that involves a custom IDL. We ended up adding a "[<=]" syntax, but we were worried it would be confusing to new developers. We realized it would make people happy to have an excuse to type smiley faces, though.
- sgtnoodle 4y ago
  I guess folk here don't like puns.

efaref 4y ago

It's not necessarily a "re-"throw. It could just be a throw of a newly detected error, like: try { if bad_thing { do yeet Error::new(...); } carry_on() } Just plain "throw" would probably be fine, but I understand not wanting to bikeshed it at this stage. Weirdly, "yeet" really does convey the sense of "just give up and chuck this thing back instead" that makes it a reasonable nice converse of "try", i.e. "try { yeet }".

dathinab 4y ago

Bikeshedding is a major pain for developing in large projects. Naming bikeshedding is one of the worst kind of bikeshedding. By now I'm sure of two things: - People will not agree on a name. - People will diverge any technical discussion again and again and again because they need to discuss naming. So in the end most likely there will be some formal or informal survey and then the language teem will do a top-down decisions for one of the more well liked candidates, it's as far as I can tell pretty much the best way to go. (Theoretically you could have a vote, but then you need a proper not easily manipulated voting system people need to take serious, or it will be named not yeet in the end because people are trolls). EDIT: Also this is not a developer discussion so I guess it's fine here ;)

TheCycoONE 4y ago

Oh, if we're bike shedding I propose ¿ as the natural syntax (because it jumps to ?.) /s