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“Crime Pays but Botany Doesn’t” crosses citizen science with environmentalism
- ttyprintk 4y agoBotany includes mycology in most university departments. My favorite episode is Late Night at the Mushroom Lab: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVXAALRfRo https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kJVXAALRfRo
- weatherlight 4y agoHis stuff is great :) Its entertaining and informative. He certainly has a brand.
- doctorhandshake 4y agoBig fan. I hear his voice in my head whenever I scrabble around my property.
- beefandcheese 4y agoSame, doesn't help that I have a mushroom farm.
- giantg2 4y agoProfessional or hobby? I do dome hobby growing and have lions mane, shiitake, black poplar, king oyster, and even some maitake in various stages right now.
- showerst 4y agoCount me as someone who has gotten more interested in the natural world thanks to Joey. His mycology stuff led me to Alan Rockefeller who is also super cool, and does great talks and videos.
- ihunter2839 4y agoI learned that the two of them were housemates for a period of time while taking a mycology class from Alan - can you imagine being a fly on the wall in that place? What a colorful group.
- bliteben 4y agoHis affected voice he does always reminds me of AVE
- Adraghast 4y agoGo to Chicago.
- Severian 4y agoI've been following him for awhile now. Didn't realize how popular he's become. I love the very Chicago accent, one of the reasons I started watching.
- asguy 4y agoHis Berkeley Bowl videos is one of my favorites: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PUFQouwqbe8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PUFQouwqbe8
- anm89 4y agoAwesome channel. Really worth a watch
- RosanaAnaDana 4y agoI've been his patreon for a couple years and you should consider supporting this kind of work. His cathartic rants about surburban sprawl and the downfall of western civilization might be the paper shield saving me from this world. https://www.patreon.com/CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt https://www.patreon.com/CrimePaysButBotanyDoesnt
- tomrod 4y agoOh I love this man. Thanks for the link!
- greggsy 4y agoHis podcast is really eye opening too - he talks about therapy and his time as a train driver quite a lot.
- DonHopkins 4y agoI love his rants on "Hippie Snake Oil" and the health care system in his "Woke Grocery Store" tour (Berkeley Bowl West). And also the hippies clubbing each other with the cucumbers in the bargain section. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUFQouwqbe8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUFQouwqbe8 >Join us as we take a look at some of the ethnobotany in the woke-est grocery store in the bay area. Educational content is virtually non-existent as we explore what exactly it would take to make passive-aggressive woke citizens attack a person. Who can do a better job of tokenizing marginalized people? Who wins the most points for having more TRANS-POC friends? Taking a break from the inherent joy of trolling climate-denying obsolete grandpas here to throw some jabs at the other side, as well!
- ComradePhil 4y agoI don't get this at all. Is this supposed to be funny? Is it satire? Is it supposed to be relatable?
- hansel_der 4y agoyes you might just not be part of the target audience
- 01100011 4y agoMy favorite misanthrope. A true poet. Do yourself a favor and subscribe to his channel. I just wish he'd give some more love to the bryophytes...
- kibwen 4y agoI can only dream that I were half as passionate about computers as Santore is about plants, and a tenth as articulate. The foulmouthed Carl Sagan of the plant world.
- ASinclair 4y agoI saw him speak at a Nerd Nite SF event. Very funny compared to other presenters. I think he self-identified as having ADHD and it shows. He knows a ton and is self-taught.
- drc500free 4y ago> On Twitter, you’ll find that some young academics don’t think Santore’s takes on taxonomy are “woke” enough. It's interesting to see how "I stand up to the woke mob" is becoming a common marketing tactic to demonstrate authenticity, no matter the context. The only thing I find on twitter is Santore trying to start flame war threads with unprovoked complaints about "woke" people, and a bunch of people asking him what the heck he's going on about.
- colechristensen 4y agoI’m all for the bullying of morality try-hards.
- beebmam 4y agoThe only people who deserve bullying are the bullies.
- micromacrofoot 4y agobelieve me, the anti-morality try-hards aren’t any better
- kuhewa 4y agoThe exaggerated concern for "woke overreach" is its own form of morality tryhardism
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- triyambakam 4y agoWhy is it called citizen science?
- lupire 4y agoCitizen science is when someone is doing science but not being paid by a science business, or not being a trained PhD Patreon/YouTubers straddle the boundary.
- 0des 4y agoHe's not trained?
- wardedVibe 4y agoNot in a school. from the article > In 2006, Santore enrolled in a few classes at a community college in San Francisco. He left shortly after. On a whim that same year, he was hired on by the Union Pacific railroad, working as a brakeman, and later, an engineer. For the next 13 years, Santore studied the geology of railroad cuts as the trains traveled through them and stocked his railroad bag with botany research papers from the website Sci-Hub.
- 0des 4y agoIt was a rhetorical question. Not having the paper is not the same as being not trained.
- SantalBlush 4y agoIt's a good thing they said "trained PhD" then.
- triyambakam 4y agoI get that, but why "citizen"? Being a trained PhD or being employed to do science by a company doesn't make one not a citizen
- sprokolopolis 4y agoI've been watching his content for a while now and I love him. He is a breath of fresh air in a field that is sometimes a bit dry. He is hilarious, knowledgeable and brings so much life and character to us in his content. If a little colorful language and wit can get more people interested in nature we will all benefit. We have to share this planet and the more we learn and love it, we will hopefull take better care of it. I am not a botanist, but I always loved plants. When I was 5 years old I had guerilla gardens growing all over the neighborhood (mainly beans and flowers) and my grandparents taught me how to forage for plants and fungus. Eventually, I began memorizing plant taxonomies on my own. As a more self-taught plant person, I identify a bit more with Santore, than I do with others.
- haroldp 4y agoEnthusiasm. He could do the same show without the poopy words and the sex dungeon jokes and it would be just as good because he has a contagious enthusiasm for the subject. Well almost as good, anyway.
- bityard 4y agoCounterpoint: there are those of us who would know even less about botany were it not for both this man's contagious charisma and abundance of dick jokes.
- ageofwant 4y agoJoey is the reason "Asterachea" and "Now go fuck yourself, goodbye" is now part of my daily vocabulary.
- colechristensen 4y agoBut that’s who he is. He could pretend to have manners to offend fewer people but he doesn’t have to, seems to be getting on just fine without manners, and probably attracts a lot of people who are put off by people who are dry and proper all the time.
- stuaxo 4y ago"in a landscape of American cultural decline" is a bit of a weird thing to just chuck in the middle of the text.
- estitesc 4y agoPlants are amazing.
- andbberger 4y agojoe would fucking hate that he's on the front page of HN
- fancyfredbot 4y agoI wasn't interested in botany and then I watched his channel, and then I was interested in botany and couldn't remember if why I hadn't been interested before. I like that the strong Chicago accent is apparently an act and enjoy the general misanthropy but it's the botany I stay for
- DoItToMe81 4y agoGlad people are discovering this channel. It's informative, to the point AND funny, which is a very rare combination.