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I find it very annoying that to do your taxes yourself in Australia you must have an Android or iOS phone. There is no way to authenticate via the web or just s

I find it very annoying that to do your taxes yourself in Australia you must have an Android or iOS phone. There is no way to authenticate via the web or just sms on a dumb phone.

mkj 5y ago
Last year it didn't need any 2FA for my taxes. Have they made it required now?
- Andaith 5y ago
  It's been required for a while now for the mygov login?
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  They have to do somthing to prevent the epidemic of people paying taxes other than their own.
  - meetups323 5y ago
    Same with utilities... I swear I need to provide more PII to pay my utilities than to login to my bank account. Who's going around paying other peoples bills and how do I become friends with them?
  - erik_seaberg 5y ago
    Stealing refunds is a problem in the US, because too much was withheld from many taxpayers.
- ahonhn 5y ago
  Yes, but if you linked before that then you don't have to update (for now).
toomuchtodo 5y ago
This is really what a national ID card with smart card support was made for. PIV card readers are $10-$20. https://playbooks.idmanagement.gov/piv/gettingstarted/ https://playbooks.idmanagement.gov/piv/gettingstarted/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_7816 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_7816
- Namidairo 5y ago
  Australians get really really antsy whenever the topic of National ID cards are brought up. I don't think anyone really expects a new government from either side to spend political capital on one, especially given the focus on cost of living/inflation at the moment. (There's a federal election in just over 2 weeks time.)
denismi 5y ago
How so? I just logged in on Linux/Firefox with username+password+SMS-2FA?
Andaith 5y ago
Errr, is that new? I always use username/password/2fa via text message.
cbo100 5y ago
Are you meaning business taxes? Personal tax is via mygov which is SMS 2FA. Business tax (which I thankfully haven't had to do for a while) has always been "difficult", it was an awful Java applet for a while there. Edit: I think I realise now my mistake, the new beta/govid looks to be following that path. So iOS/Android only. Old IDs still work for the moment though.
- jay_kyburz 5y ago
  I was talking about business taxes and the business portal. I didn't realize personal tax was different.
plugger 5y ago
My sister in law is a tax accountant so thankfully I still lodge through her by paper. I'd rather not have a MyGov account until absolutely required given my expectations of just how poorly that environment is configured and secured.

I find it very annoying that to do your taxes yourself in Australia you must have an Android or iOS phone. There is no way to authenticate via the web or just sms on a dumb phone.

mkj 5y ago

Last year it didn't need any 2FA for my taxes. Have they made it required now?

Andaith 5y ago
It's been required for a while now for the mygov login?
throwawayboise 5y ago
They have to do somthing to prevent the epidemic of people paying taxes other than their own.
- meetups323 5y ago
  Same with utilities... I swear I need to provide more PII to pay my utilities than to login to my bank account. Who's going around paying other peoples bills and how do I become friends with them?
- erik_seaberg 5y ago
  Stealing refunds is a problem in the US, because too much was withheld from many taxpayers.
ahonhn 5y ago
Yes, but if you linked before that then you don't have to update (for now).

toomuchtodo 5y ago

This is really what a national ID card with smart card support was made for. PIV card readers are $10-$20. https://playbooks.idmanagement.gov/piv/gettingstarted/ https://playbooks.idmanagement.gov/piv/gettingstarted/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_7816 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_7816

Namidairo 5y ago
Australians get really really antsy whenever the topic of National ID cards are brought up. I don't think anyone really expects a new government from either side to spend political capital on one, especially given the focus on cost of living/inflation at the moment. (There's a federal election in just over 2 weeks time.)

denismi 5y ago

How so? I just logged in on Linux/Firefox with username+password+SMS-2FA?

Andaith 5y ago

Errr, is that new? I always use username/password/2fa via text message.

cbo100 5y ago

Are you meaning business taxes? Personal tax is via mygov which is SMS 2FA. Business tax (which I thankfully haven't had to do for a while) has always been "difficult", it was an awful Java applet for a while there. Edit: I think I realise now my mistake, the new beta/govid looks to be following that path. So iOS/Android only. Old IDs still work for the moment though.

jay_kyburz 5y ago
I was talking about business taxes and the business portal. I didn't realize personal tax was different.

plugger 5y ago

My sister in law is a tax accountant so thankfully I still lodge through her by paper. I'd rather not have a MyGov account until absolutely required given my expectations of just how poorly that environment is configured and secured.