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> non-career politicians that care about the average American instead of growing America's influence worldwide. Wasn't W. a carrer politician? The prototypical

> non-career politicians that care about the average American instead of growing America's influence worldwide. Wasn't W. a carrer politician? The prototypical one considering his dad was President? Also with whom do you think a guy who has everything to lose such as a billionaire would side with? A career politician such as HRC/Biden or the dude saying that all Mexicans are rapists and he'd be able to shoot a man on 5th Avenue, doesn't rule out nuking North Korea, says that unlike Nixon he won't leave etc....? Put Mitt Romney up against HRC/Biden and see the wind change. Billionaires despise instability and the kind of bragadoccio impulsive egomaniacs such as W. ,Trump (and Musk for that matter). The US right is the only right-wing movement in the world which seemed immune from producing such profile of leaders. The weight of the legacy of being the party of Lincoln maybe the reason, but it seems it subdued. > Elon seems to be one of the few, if not the only one going against the grain in this regard. Musk companies took in approximately 25B in green subsidies payed for by flyover America, and all he managed to produce are gokarts for rich people which are still less frequently seen on American roads than real luxury brands such as Ferraris , Porsches and Lamborghinis.

proc0 4y ago
George W. didn't like Trump, and most in Washington didn't like him. That's one of the biggest reasons people voted for the guy, to act as a wrecking ball to be thrown at the establishment. This is where a lot of Americans who didn't regularly vote, did so in 2016. Then, the establishment joined forces across party lines and attacked Trump with everything they had for more than four years (even during the election, which Trump was able to leverage for attention). The point is as you say, rich people want a stable government, especially when they can form good relations abroad with other countries, global markets and all that. This is why they all joined forces against Trump, because he jeopardized this, meanwhile many Americans want that to end so there are more resources at home. This is where the tension arises, and where a lot of people see rich people as siding with the establishment and globalization, and yes to a great extent Elon fits in this picture, although less so, at least from a public perspective.
- I_DRINK_KOOLAID 4y ago
  To me it's the total opposite. Globalist politicians/leaders are setting the stage for Americans to dominate the social scene should they decide to WFH or retire in Mexico, Costa Rica, Vietnam, Philippines...and actually not be hated when they go there due to the crazy rethoric of the POTUS. Those places as they are today just aren't safe enough, meaning health-wise and from the standpoint of political stability. Politicians who want to spend money at home...they just mean NYC, LA, Chicago, SF..places where their have their hands all over the place. Their definition of spending money at home is the 20+ billions Hudson Yards development or the huge tax breaks given to the L.A. Rams for their 6.3B new stadium which will be used 8 Sundays per year.

proc0 4y ago

George W. didn't like Trump, and most in Washington didn't like him. That's one of the biggest reasons people voted for the guy, to act as a wrecking ball to be thrown at the establishment. This is where a lot of Americans who didn't regularly vote, did so in 2016. Then, the establishment joined forces across party lines and attacked Trump with everything they had for more than four years (even during the election, which Trump was able to leverage for attention). The point is as you say, rich people want a stable government, especially when they can form good relations abroad with other countries, global markets and all that. This is why they all joined forces against Trump, because he jeopardized this, meanwhile many Americans want that to end so there are more resources at home. This is where the tension arises, and where a lot of people see rich people as siding with the establishment and globalization, and yes to a great extent Elon fits in this picture, although less so, at least from a public perspective.

I_DRINK_KOOLAID 4y ago
To me it's the total opposite. Globalist politicians/leaders are setting the stage for Americans to dominate the social scene should they decide to WFH or retire in Mexico, Costa Rica, Vietnam, Philippines...and actually not be hated when they go there due to the crazy rethoric of the POTUS. Those places as they are today just aren't safe enough, meaning health-wise and from the standpoint of political stability. Politicians who want to spend money at home...they just mean NYC, LA, Chicago, SF..places where their have their hands all over the place. Their definition of spending money at home is the 20+ billions Hudson Yards development or the huge tax breaks given to the L.A. Rams for their 6.3B new stadium which will be used 8 Sundays per year.