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Which is pretty ironic when the scroll bars are so elusive when you actually want to drag them

oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
Oh... I have scrollbars permanently shown rather than only on-hover. I should've mentioned that — maybe it affects things.
na85 4y ago
I haven't dragged a scroll bar in any OS since windows XP. When do you find it's necessary/convenient?
- contingencies 4y ago
  Many graphics tablets don't have scroll on the pen.
- egypturnash 4y ago
  It is pretty much required if your primary interaction with the computer is through a drawing tablet. My Wacom has a touch-sensitive wheel on it but it's usually a lot more natural to just poke at the scroll bar with the stylus. I loathe the modern trend towards hiding all scroll bars everywhere because of this.
- giobox 4y ago
  It can still be a lot more efficient to grab the scrollbar to jump to a section of a large document. For example, you can instantly get to say 3/4 of the way through by moving the scroll bar a very short distance, which when done with the scroll wheel or trackpad gestures could take a very long time. The scroll bar is also sometimes a nice visual cue to the size of a document you've just opened for the first time, again something the wheel/gestures don't necessarily inform. I have permanent scroll bars enabled in macOS too.
  - cywick 4y ago
    Related hint: Instead of dragging the scroll bar slider, you can also just option+click on the place of the scrollbar that you want to jump to.
- artificialLimbs 4y ago
  Some old apps have a 'slow' scroll if you just roll the wheel. Moving around large documents in them is a zen koan, designed to break your brain.
- deleted 4y ago
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- rendang 4y ago
  Looking at this very page! Using the middle mouse button takes me 3 or 4 seconds to move somewhere close to the bottom of the page, much faster and less frustrating to grab and drag the scroll bar. Is there some easier method I'm missing?
- fomine3 4y ago
  Sometimes comfortable to drag with thumb trackball

Oh... I have scrollbars permanently shown rather than only on-hover. I should've mentioned that — maybe it affects things.

na85 4y ago

I haven't dragged a scroll bar in any OS since windows XP. When do you find it's necessary/convenient?

contingencies 4y ago
Many graphics tablets don't have scroll on the pen.
egypturnash 4y ago
It is pretty much required if your primary interaction with the computer is through a drawing tablet. My Wacom has a touch-sensitive wheel on it but it's usually a lot more natural to just poke at the scroll bar with the stylus. I loathe the modern trend towards hiding all scroll bars everywhere because of this.
giobox 4y ago
It can still be a lot more efficient to grab the scrollbar to jump to a section of a large document. For example, you can instantly get to say 3/4 of the way through by moving the scroll bar a very short distance, which when done with the scroll wheel or trackpad gestures could take a very long time. The scroll bar is also sometimes a nice visual cue to the size of a document you've just opened for the first time, again something the wheel/gestures don't necessarily inform. I have permanent scroll bars enabled in macOS too.
- cywick 4y ago
  Related hint: Instead of dragging the scroll bar slider, you can also just option+click on the place of the scrollbar that you want to jump to.
artificialLimbs 4y ago
Some old apps have a 'slow' scroll if you just roll the wheel. Moving around large documents in them is a zen koan, designed to break your brain.
deleted 4y ago
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rendang 4y ago
Looking at this very page! Using the middle mouse button takes me 3 or 4 seconds to move somewhere close to the bottom of the page, much faster and less frustrating to grab and drag the scroll bar. Is there some easier method I'm missing?
fomine3 4y ago
Sometimes comfortable to drag with thumb trackball