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There are so many bugs in the OS and I just work around them. Two recent ones I can think of: Issue 1 is: Shift+click selection doesn't work in Finder's Icon

There are so many bugs in the OS and I just work around them. Two recent ones I can think of: Issue 1 is: Shift+click selection doesn't work in Finder's Icon view. To reproduce: In finder select the "icons" view. Click on the first item, Hold shift, and while holding shit then click on the tenth item. Expected behavior is to select Items 1-10 including ten. Workaround: Switch to list view. Issue 2: Lock screen keyboard shortcut doesn't work when mission control is activated. To reproduce: Open mission control via app or hot corner. Press Control+Command+Q to lock screen. Screen won't lock. Workaround: Deactivate mission control view before locking screen. Yea...it's dumb. But in the words of the late great Steve Jobs, 'don't hold it that way'. I get that apple is different. But sometimes it just seems counterintuitive.

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
I don't think "Issue 1" is a bug; icon view isn't necessarily ordered so it doesn't have meaningful range selection.
microtonal 4y ago
To reproduce: In finder select the "icons" view. Click on the first item, Hold shift, and while holding shit then click on the tenth item. I don't think that's a bug. The icon view does not have an inherent ordering, since you can just drag icons around. What is supposed to be the range to select if you have an unordered view. Issue 2: Lock screen keyboard shortcut doesn't work when mission control is activated. That looks like a bug. Interestingly, it does work on the new external Apple keyboards when you press the key that also has Touch ID.
- Tagbert 4y ago
  Still, icon view is usually a grid of icons, there is an implied order there, also you can set the sort order to any number of properties. I’m not particularly bothered by this, but it seems like you should be able to select a range of icons with shift-click like any other list of items.
pvg 4y ago
The first one is not a bug, it's designed like that. Icons in icon view can be positioned arbitrarily and have no order. You can't easily extend the selection with shift clicking because in that view, it's not obvious what that gesture is supposed to be extending beyond the thing being clicked on. It's worked like that since MacOS Classic.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  Sure one can find all sort of arguments why this is, but it still violates the principle of least surprise. I don't think anyone would go and say, "oh this is an icon view without clear order, so I should not be able to select a group of icons".
  - pvg 4y ago
    It doesn't violate the principle of least surprise if you're basically inventing the convention, which is the case here. There's a slightly different convention in some subsequent systems but they typically don't have arbitrarily positionable icons. The MacOS convention has been around for nearly 40 years.
adamomada 4y ago
I hear ya on issue 2, it’s one of the very few gotchas I run into (hot corners don’t work in this view either). If you weren’t aware, you can exit mission control with ESC or F3 again, if you’re used to that shortcut. There must be something special about the overview screen that is stopping all default behaviour when in this mode, the cursor keys don’t work here either.

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago

I don't think "Issue 1" is a bug; icon view isn't necessarily ordered so it doesn't have meaningful range selection.

microtonal 4y ago

To reproduce: In finder select the "icons" view. Click on the first item, Hold shift, and while holding shit then click on the tenth item. I don't think that's a bug. The icon view does not have an inherent ordering, since you can just drag icons around. What is supposed to be the range to select if you have an unordered view. Issue 2: Lock screen keyboard shortcut doesn't work when mission control is activated. That looks like a bug. Interestingly, it does work on the new external Apple keyboards when you press the key that also has Touch ID.

Tagbert 4y ago
Still, icon view is usually a grid of icons, there is an implied order there, also you can set the sort order to any number of properties. I’m not particularly bothered by this, but it seems like you should be able to select a range of icons with shift-click like any other list of items.

pvg 4y ago

The first one is not a bug, it's designed like that. Icons in icon view can be positioned arbitrarily and have no order. You can't easily extend the selection with shift clicking because in that view, it's not obvious what that gesture is supposed to be extending beyond the thing being clicked on. It's worked like that since MacOS Classic.

cycomanic 4y ago
Sure one can find all sort of arguments why this is, but it still violates the principle of least surprise. I don't think anyone would go and say, "oh this is an icon view without clear order, so I should not be able to select a group of icons".
- pvg 4y ago
  It doesn't violate the principle of least surprise if you're basically inventing the convention, which is the case here. There's a slightly different convention in some subsequent systems but they typically don't have arbitrarily positionable icons. The MacOS convention has been around for nearly 40 years.

adamomada 4y ago

I hear ya on issue 2, it’s one of the very few gotchas I run into (hot corners don’t work in this view either). If you weren’t aware, you can exit mission control with ESC or F3 again, if you’re used to that shortcut. There must be something special about the overview screen that is stopping all default behaviour when in this mode, the cursor keys don’t work here either.