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The crux of the issue as far as I see it is that Facebook aren't exactly being open and transparent about the data that they're holding on you, or how it's bein

The crux of the issue as far as I see it is that Facebook aren't exactly being open and transparent about the data that they're holding on you, or how it's being used. If you don't know that, there's no tradeoff being made. And in a lot of cases, there's data being gathered about people who haven't opted in. Seriously, read through the list of complaints: Shadow Profiles Facebook is collecting data about people without their knowledge. This information is used to substitute existing profiles and to create profiles of non-users. Messages Messages (incl. Chat-Messages) are stored by Facebook even after the user “deleted” them. This means that all direct communication on Facebook can never be deleted. Data Security In its terms, Facebook says that it does not guarantee any level of data security. Applications Applications of “friends” can access data of the user. There is no guarantee that these applications are following European privacy standards. I mean, really? None of these give you any pause for thought whatsoever?

AppSec 15y ago
Messages: This is the implementation issue and one of rights anyway. If I send a message to a friend, what right do I have to delete it from their in-box or sent items if they save a copy of it? The deletion is a view deletion, not a physical deletion. A large number of deletes work this way (at least initially they go to an archive and then are either time removed or can be manually removed). Data Security: Anyone who says your data secure is bluffing. Your data is never secure, and people need to stop thinking it is. It's out there. Backups, in transit, in DB, on file system. There is going to be whole. Think about it. Encrypted backups - they are never updated and eventually that encryption is going to be easy to crack. FB could be taking the answer to the extreme, but it is actually a smart answer. Applications: FB doesn't develop them. It would be similar to MS guaranteeing apps written by third parties. It can't do it. Apple can't even do it. Linux doesn't do it. FB has it's issues. It's constant update of privacy and not letting the user to choose to expose what data they want. But this is no different than any other system thrown out there. FB isn't the only one creating shadow profiles (how many tracking websites are out there that companies use to determine site usage). Do you think they are really being transparent? Don't you think the shadow companies could build a shadow profile if they wanted to? My issues with FB is that when they release new features or alter settings ability they make it the least secure possible. If they are violating the laws, then they need to be reprimanded for it. But this just has the feel of the MS monopoly issue. Where people are only going after them because they are so big when others are out there doing it as well.

AppSec 15y ago

Messages: This is the implementation issue and one of rights anyway. If I send a message to a friend, what right do I have to delete it from their in-box or sent items if they save a copy of it? The deletion is a view deletion, not a physical deletion. A large number of deletes work this way (at least initially they go to an archive and then are either time removed or can be manually removed). Data Security: Anyone who says your data secure is bluffing. Your data is never secure, and people need to stop thinking it is. It's out there. Backups, in transit, in DB, on file system. There is going to be whole. Think about it. Encrypted backups - they are never updated and eventually that encryption is going to be easy to crack. FB could be taking the answer to the extreme, but it is actually a smart answer. Applications: FB doesn't develop them. It would be similar to MS guaranteeing apps written by third parties. It can't do it. Apple can't even do it. Linux doesn't do it. FB has it's issues. It's constant update of privacy and not letting the user to choose to expose what data they want. But this is no different than any other system thrown out there. FB isn't the only one creating shadow profiles (how many tracking websites are out there that companies use to determine site usage). Do you think they are really being transparent? Don't you think the shadow companies could build a shadow profile if they wanted to? My issues with FB is that when they release new features or alter settings ability they make it the least secure possible. If they are violating the laws, then they need to be reprimanded for it. But this just has the feel of the MS monopoly issue. Where people are only going after them because they are so big when others are out there doing it as well.