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I find it weird how perfectly stable the marketshare is https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/m

I find it weird how perfectly stable the marketshare is https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide What are the odds.. Edit: actually Apple has gained marketshare in the last few years up to 29% then fallen to 27% and since stagnate to it. Despite being much much more APKs than Ipas (and the gradient likely increasing (any data ?), this doesn't seems to affect much markestshare. What the IOS market needs to fall is to miss some killer apps.

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ink_13 4y ago
If you increase the timescale, those numbers actually show that iOS has increased its market share by 10% since late 2018, which is also interesting.
- fckgw 4y ago
  Not too long after the introduction of the iPhone SE and Apple keeping older models in their lineup to act as cheaper options to their yearly flagship phone. I'm sure a $399 SE has taken a chunk of Android's market share.
  - brewdad 4y ago
    I made the switch to Apple a year ago. I was tired of losing support 12-18 months after purchase and having my phones be practically unusable after 2 years. I have no interest in messing about with 3rd party OSes, I just want a phone that works. So far, I don't regret the change. Check back in a year to see if my battery still holds an all day charge.
    - selectodude 4y ago
      And a new battery is, what, $50?
    - lostmsu 4y ago
      Hm, you picked peculiar time to switch considering Samsung announced 4 year support cycles for new phones in Feb 2021: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-updates-knox-2021-1202942/ https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-updates-knox-2021-1... Google did it around the same time.
  - hbn 4y ago
    Apple didn't need to do anything to get me to finally switch at the end of 2020. Experiencing the constant rug-pulling from being a Google user for the better part of a decade is a better ad campaign for the iPhone than Apple could ever hope to pay for. One of the final straws for me was when they killed Google Play Music out of nowhere and forced everyone over to YouTube Music which is inferior in basically every way. The only thing I missed when I first switched was free unlimited Google Photos backups I got with the Pixel phones. It was around that exact same time that the Pixel 5 launched, and Google announces that Pixels no longer get that perk. And the free, compressed tier also uses up your Google Drive space now. That basically cemented my feeling that I made the right decision. Oh, and then the next major upgrade to Android introduced Material You, forcing you into having a bizarre pastel shade of a color based on your wallpaper across your entire OS, and it looks horrible. Every decision Google has made about Android since I left has only made me more glad I'm not on the Google wild ride any more. I'm 2 years in and I don't really miss anything about Android.
iskander 4y ago
Since 2009: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202205 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide/...
ramesh31 4y ago
>Despite being much much more APKs than Ipas (and the gradient likely increasing (any data ?), this doesn't seems to affect much markestshare. What the IOS market needs to fall is to miss some killer apps. Market share doesn't tell the true story. It's all about revenue. Apple generates nearly twice the profits of Google from one third the number of devices. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/05/app-store-earns-723-billion-in-2020-almost-double-google-play-revenues https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/05/app-store-earns-7...
- SemanticStrengh 4y ago
  While a commonly repeated trope, I disagree with it: Play stores apps must pay a 30% comission rate the first year then it drops to 15%. Most of user acquisition of successful apps are made after the first year of existsence. Therefore, the vast majority of Android apps revenue are made with a 15% commission rate vs Apple constant 30% milking. So one could ~say for an equal revenue, Apple will take the double, and since they have ~25% marketshare, then I see no signal of apple users spending more than Android users, however the milking is hard. Android announced this year that from now one, the comission rate will be 15% even the first year. And 15% is still indecent, people must be really perturbed in modern society to find such power abuse acceptable.
  - ramesh31 4y ago
    >So one could ~say for an equal revenue, Apple will take the double, and since they have ~25% marketshare, then I see no signal of apple users spending significantly more than Android users, however the milking is hard. Blood from a stone and all that. You can only milk people for what they've got, and you can bet that Google's 15% number is not coming out of the kindness of their hearts. It's a competitive tactic to lure app developers away from what they know is a more lucrative platform. Point being that Apple users are, on average, much wealthier and more willing to spend money in an app store, and thus much more profitable per MAU.
    - SemanticStrengh 4y ago
      > Point being that Apple users are, on average, much wealthier and more willing to spend money in an app store, and thus much more profitable per MAU. No the only maximally pro-thesis consequence you could speculate from data is that Apple users have on average, maximally 15% more money willing to spend. Of course in many cases the fact they pay 50% more to apple (global 15%) does not imply that this excess money would be spent in additional app purchases, only a subset would and spending often have diminishing returns. I would say that the average apple user has 5-8% more money to spend, and as said, in the ridiculously pro-thesis case, 15%. Therefore the effect you're trying to show is in fact very small.
KoftaBob 4y ago
Adding onto that, it's super interesting that the 2011-2012 time period seems to have coincided with the most balanced market shares for both mobile OS and browsers: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-200901-202204 https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-2009...

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ink_13 4y ago

If you increase the timescale, those numbers actually show that iOS has increased its market share by 10% since late 2018, which is also interesting.

fckgw 4y ago
Not too long after the introduction of the iPhone SE and Apple keeping older models in their lineup to act as cheaper options to their yearly flagship phone. I'm sure a $399 SE has taken a chunk of Android's market share.
- brewdad 4y ago
  I made the switch to Apple a year ago. I was tired of losing support 12-18 months after purchase and having my phones be practically unusable after 2 years. I have no interest in messing about with 3rd party OSes, I just want a phone that works. So far, I don't regret the change. Check back in a year to see if my battery still holds an all day charge.
  - selectodude 4y ago
    And a new battery is, what, $50?
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    Hm, you picked peculiar time to switch considering Samsung announced 4 year support cycles for new phones in Feb 2021: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-updates-knox-2021-1202942/ https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-updates-knox-2021-1... Google did it around the same time.
- hbn 4y ago
  Apple didn't need to do anything to get me to finally switch at the end of 2020. Experiencing the constant rug-pulling from being a Google user for the better part of a decade is a better ad campaign for the iPhone than Apple could ever hope to pay for. One of the final straws for me was when they killed Google Play Music out of nowhere and forced everyone over to YouTube Music which is inferior in basically every way. The only thing I missed when I first switched was free unlimited Google Photos backups I got with the Pixel phones. It was around that exact same time that the Pixel 5 launched, and Google announces that Pixels no longer get that perk. And the free, compressed tier also uses up your Google Drive space now. That basically cemented my feeling that I made the right decision. Oh, and then the next major upgrade to Android introduced Material You, forcing you into having a bizarre pastel shade of a color based on your wallpaper across your entire OS, and it looks horrible. Every decision Google has made about Android since I left has only made me more glad I'm not on the Google wild ride any more. I'm 2 years in and I don't really miss anything about Android.

iskander 4y ago

Since 2009: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202205 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide/...

ramesh31 4y ago

>Despite being much much more APKs than Ipas (and the gradient likely increasing (any data ?), this doesn't seems to affect much markestshare. What the IOS market needs to fall is to miss some killer apps. Market share doesn't tell the true story. It's all about revenue. Apple generates nearly twice the profits of Google from one third the number of devices. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/05/app-store-earns-723-billion-in-2020-almost-double-google-play-revenues https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/05/app-store-earns-7...

SemanticStrengh 4y ago
While a commonly repeated trope, I disagree with it: Play stores apps must pay a 30% comission rate the first year then it drops to 15%. Most of user acquisition of successful apps are made after the first year of existsence. Therefore, the vast majority of Android apps revenue are made with a 15% commission rate vs Apple constant 30% milking. So one could ~say for an equal revenue, Apple will take the double, and since they have ~25% marketshare, then I see no signal of apple users spending more than Android users, however the milking is hard. Android announced this year that from now one, the comission rate will be 15% even the first year. And 15% is still indecent, people must be really perturbed in modern society to find such power abuse acceptable.
- ramesh31 4y ago
  >So one could ~say for an equal revenue, Apple will take the double, and since they have ~25% marketshare, then I see no signal of apple users spending significantly more than Android users, however the milking is hard. Blood from a stone and all that. You can only milk people for what they've got, and you can bet that Google's 15% number is not coming out of the kindness of their hearts. It's a competitive tactic to lure app developers away from what they know is a more lucrative platform. Point being that Apple users are, on average, much wealthier and more willing to spend money in an app store, and thus much more profitable per MAU.
  - SemanticStrengh 4y ago
    > Point being that Apple users are, on average, much wealthier and more willing to spend money in an app store, and thus much more profitable per MAU. No the only maximally pro-thesis consequence you could speculate from data is that Apple users have on average, maximally 15% more money willing to spend. Of course in many cases the fact they pay 50% more to apple (global 15%) does not imply that this excess money would be spent in additional app purchases, only a subset would and spending often have diminishing returns. I would say that the average apple user has 5-8% more money to spend, and as said, in the ridiculously pro-thesis case, 15%. Therefore the effect you're trying to show is in fact very small.

KoftaBob 4y ago

Adding onto that, it's super interesting that the 2011-2012 time period seems to have coincided with the most balanced market shares for both mobile OS and browsers: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-200901-202204 https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share#monthly-2009...