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>Why is nobody complaining about NTFS or ext3/4 not actually zeroing out the file space when you delete something, and instead just 'marking it deleted' or 'rem

>Why is nobody complaining about NTFS or ext3/4 not actually zeroing out the file space when you delete something, and instead just 'marking it deleted' or 'removing the pointer in the inode'? you have obviously never dealt with DoD or anybody close to it or even just with a serious enterprise/bank.

count 15y ago
Actually, I have. Shredding, NIST, the whole nine. Facebook isn't protecting classified nuclear secrets, or the keys to the financial kingdom, it's protecting pictures of cats and drunk college parties. And outside of a few special places, such as the DoD, NOBODY CARES about the file system issues.
- grecy 15y ago
  >...it's protecting pictures of cats and drunk college parties While that summary is not incorrect, I think it's worth noting those pictures you mentioned are valued somewhere above $80,000,000,000 (http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/27/facebook-valuation-sharespost/ http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/27/facebook-valuation-sharesp...) Maybe there's more to it than that.
- VladRussian 15y ago
  What this all information is gathered for? One of main known goals is "personalized shopping experience" in marketing speak. For some people to be presented while shopping with prices 50% higher than they would be otherwise just because analysis of the information gathered about them would show that they would buy at this price would be equivalent to losing the keys to their personal financial kingdom.
- anigbrowl 15y ago
  drunk college parties the kind that can prevent you from getting that job you want 15 years afterwards? Facebook may be a private company, but would you want them (or anyone) disgorging all their data on you that they've ever had in response to a government subpoena - for a background check or a security clearance, for example?

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>Why is nobody complaining about NTFS or ext3/4 not actually zeroing out the file space when you delete something, and instead just 'marking it deleted' or 'rem

by VladRussian 15y ago

count 15y ago
Actually, I have. Shredding, NIST, the whole nine. Facebook isn't protecting classified nuclear secrets, or the keys to the financial kingdom, it's protecting pictures of cats and drunk college parties. And outside of a few special places, such as the DoD, NOBODY CARES about the file system issues.
- grecy 15y ago
  >...it's protecting pictures of cats and drunk college parties While that summary is not incorrect, I think it's worth noting those pictures you mentioned are valued somewhere above $80,000,000,000 (http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/27/facebook-valuation-sharespost/ http://venturebeat.com/2011/09/27/facebook-valuation-sharesp...) Maybe there's more to it than that.
- VladRussian 15y ago
  What this all information is gathered for? One of main known goals is "personalized shopping experience" in marketing speak. For some people to be presented while shopping with prices 50% higher than they would be otherwise just because analysis of the information gathered about them would show that they would buy at this price would be equivalent to losing the keys to their personal financial kingdom.
- anigbrowl 15y ago
  drunk college parties the kind that can prevent you from getting that job you want 15 years afterwards? Facebook may be a private company, but would you want them (or anyone) disgorging all their data on you that they've ever had in response to a government subpoena - for a background check or a security clearance, for example?