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No. Sometimes it's good to disable zoom (e. g. in web apps that function as a big canvas, like Figma). Pages should use the feature correctly. People shouldn't

No. Sometimes it's good to disable zoom (e. g. in web apps that function as a big canvas, like Figma). Pages should use the feature correctly. People shouldn't have to fiddle with browser settings just because someone can't CSS properly.

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bartread 4y ago
I think this is where I have to point out that 50% of people who CSS are worse than average at CSS, depending upon exactly how you define "average". You're absolutely right: pages should use the feature correctly, but some won't (because of my previous point or, much less frequently, out of sheer stubbornness/malice/whatever), so I'm extremely glad that browsers offer a workaround via settings for situations where that's the case.
_moof 4y ago
If there's one thing that's true about web design, it's that pages won't use the feature correctly, no matter what the feature is.
runnerup 4y ago
I agree with the grandparent. While I believe it’s irresponsible for web developers to inappropriately lock zoom…I also believe it’s grossly irresponsible for the browser to not provide an override for this. One of the worst offenses for me is when the website dynamically resizes everything so that zoom “works” but a split second later everything goes back the way it was. I would also like browsers to have a quick/accessible workaround for that behavior too.
jhugo 4y ago
The user is zooming because what they see is not legible to them. If Figma can't work out how to handle that, that's Figma's failing.
- emteycz 4y ago
  Figma does it correctly, that's the point (they have custom zooming logic) - if user has to fiddle with their zoom-lock settings because of other pages, then pages like Figma which use the feature correctly and for the intended purpose will stop working.
renewiltord 4y ago
I am convinced. I wish per-site zoom controls would show up as a setting somewhere in the browser chrome because I think that would make this a non-issue, but the differentiation is valuable since some sites should block zoom. Okay.

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bartread 4y ago

I think this is where I have to point out that 50% of people who CSS are worse than average at CSS, depending upon exactly how you define "average". You're absolutely right: pages should use the feature correctly, but some won't (because of my previous point or, much less frequently, out of sheer stubbornness/malice/whatever), so I'm extremely glad that browsers offer a workaround via settings for situations where that's the case.

_moof 4y ago

If there's one thing that's true about web design, it's that pages won't use the feature correctly, no matter what the feature is.

runnerup 4y ago

I agree with the grandparent. While I believe it’s irresponsible for web developers to inappropriately lock zoom…I also believe it’s grossly irresponsible for the browser to not provide an override for this. One of the worst offenses for me is when the website dynamically resizes everything so that zoom “works” but a split second later everything goes back the way it was. I would also like browsers to have a quick/accessible workaround for that behavior too.

jhugo 4y ago

The user is zooming because what they see is not legible to them. If Figma can't work out how to handle that, that's Figma's failing.

emteycz 4y ago
Figma does it correctly, that's the point (they have custom zooming logic) - if user has to fiddle with their zoom-lock settings because of other pages, then pages like Figma which use the feature correctly and for the intended purpose will stop working.

renewiltord 4y ago

I am convinced. I wish per-site zoom controls would show up as a setting somewhere in the browser chrome because I think that would make this a non-issue, but the differentiation is valuable since some sites should block zoom. Okay.