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> Honestly, do you think parents are able to effectively counter literal billion-dollar companies that pour resources into making sure their apps are engaging (

> Honestly, do you think parents are able to effectively counter literal billion-dollar companies that pour resources into making sure their apps are engaging (read: addictive)? How? not by trying to put the fault on them or dodging the issue by finding excuses if you ban tiktok today, tomorrow will appear a new one, embrace them for what they are, social communication mediums, and educate your kids with the problems and how they can avoid them, and to contact you in case they face them the reason they are finding an escape through them and not thought you is because you are hostile to the way they communicate with their friends, and if you add the pandemic to the bags, it is easy to understand why they are using it more often trying to push an agenda, and using "teen mental health" as an excuse is disgusting student loan, much deadlier, and nobody gives a shit facebook? deadlier from 7 to 77, and nobody gives a shit, but tiktok? all of a sudden, it's the evil ;) because you can't spread your propaganda? politic or commercial? how sad! teens and young adult too busy spreading positivity on tiktok, we must fight!

_aavaa_ 4y ago
> facebook? deadlier from 7 to 77, and nobody gives a shit, but tiktok? all of a sudden, it's the evil ;) I don't think that's true at all. Facebook and tiktok are bad for you in their own ways and I'd be willing to bet that many of the people who rail against TikTok's detrimental effects railed and continue to rail against Facebook.
chimen 4y ago
> not by trying to put the fault on them or dodging the issue by finding excuses The issue is being taken care of don't worry, no excuses, straight from the root. > the reason they are finding an escape through them and not thought you is because you are hostile to the way they communicate with their friends I am not. She has whatsapp, youtube, meets, games and a healthy digital presence with her friends and colleagues. I just weed out crap that she is not prepared for, the addictive one. I do not find here prepared, at 10 years of age, to deal with crap like likes, followers, reactions, views or other meaningless measurements that put thousands into mental hospitals.
- Shadonototra 4y ago
  > I am not. She has whatsapp, youtube, meets, games and a healthy digital presence with her friends and colleagues. I just weed out crap that she is not prepared for, the addictive one. you contradict yourself, youtube has shorts wich is just like tiktok.. on top of likes/dislikes/comments/subscribers/channels/private messages/google profile etc wow, scary btw!.. on top of mature content!! "shh..must fight tiktok!!" so the problem is US apps vs Chinese app? > I do not find here prepared, at 10 years of age, to deal with crap like likes, followers, reactions, views or other meaningless measurements that put thousands into mental hospitals. and the problem is here, your kid is 10yo https://www.tiktok.com/safety/en/guardians-guide/ https://www.tiktok.com/safety/en/guardians-guide/ > To sign up for TikTok, you must first pass through an age gate to get you into the right TikTok experience. In the US, if you’re under 13 years old, you’ll be placed into our TikTok for Younger Users experience which has additional privacy and safety protections designed specifically for this audience. If we learn that a person under the age of 13 is using or posting content on TikTok without using TikTok for Younger Users, they will be removed. > TikTok can be downloaded from the App Store, Google Play Store, Amazon Appstore, and other official application platforms. We’ve given the app a 12+ rating specifically so caregivers can access the device-level Apple and Android controls built into your family’s devices. If you don’t want your teen to download our app, you can prevent them from doing so using the parental controls available via these stores. if she addicted, she probably started to consume tiktok prior to her 10'th year, parental issue here you should have set up screen time so she don't spent all her time on her phone the best way to create problems btw, is to cut addictions overnight
Loughla 4y ago
I didn't say anything about tiktok? I'm very confused by your comment. It's full of strawman arguments around tiktok, which I am not talking about exclusively. And an ad hominem about my parenting. There isn't really anything in this to counter what I said, which was that parents are vastly under-resourced and under-prepared compared to the companies putting these apps into the world.
- tekknik 4y ago
  Your parent did say something about tiktok. If parents all parents are “ vastly under-resourced and under-prepared” then how come this is not a universal problem? How come someone can’t point fault at the parents without the parents getting super defensive? All parents must be perfect (none are) and clearly are experts at raising kids right? Do you think, at least in some cases, it is inattentive parents?
  - DiggyJohnson 4y ago
    It is a universal problem, that’s what is being discussed here. I think your comments so far have been very off the mark on this regard.
    - tekknik 4y ago
      But as per the report, it’s rising therefor by definition not a universal problem. This is also just the US perspective, no other countries. So what data do you have that shows this is universal?

_aavaa_ 4y ago

> facebook? deadlier from 7 to 77, and nobody gives a shit, but tiktok? all of a sudden, it's the evil ;) I don't think that's true at all. Facebook and tiktok are bad for you in their own ways and I'd be willing to bet that many of the people who rail against TikTok's detrimental effects railed and continue to rail against Facebook.

chimen 4y ago

> not by trying to put the fault on them or dodging the issue by finding excuses The issue is being taken care of don't worry, no excuses, straight from the root. > the reason they are finding an escape through them and not thought you is because you are hostile to the way they communicate with their friends I am not. She has whatsapp, youtube, meets, games and a healthy digital presence with her friends and colleagues. I just weed out crap that she is not prepared for, the addictive one. I do not find here prepared, at 10 years of age, to deal with crap like likes, followers, reactions, views or other meaningless measurements that put thousands into mental hospitals.

Shadonototra 4y ago
> I am not. She has whatsapp, youtube, meets, games and a healthy digital presence with her friends and colleagues. I just weed out crap that she is not prepared for, the addictive one. you contradict yourself, youtube has shorts wich is just like tiktok.. on top of likes/dislikes/comments/subscribers/channels/private messages/google profile etc wow, scary btw!.. on top of mature content!! "shh..must fight tiktok!!" so the problem is US apps vs Chinese app? > I do not find here prepared, at 10 years of age, to deal with crap like likes, followers, reactions, views or other meaningless measurements that put thousands into mental hospitals. and the problem is here, your kid is 10yo https://www.tiktok.com/safety/en/guardians-guide/ https://www.tiktok.com/safety/en/guardians-guide/ > To sign up for TikTok, you must first pass through an age gate to get you into the right TikTok experience. In the US, if you’re under 13 years old, you’ll be placed into our TikTok for Younger Users experience which has additional privacy and safety protections designed specifically for this audience. If we learn that a person under the age of 13 is using or posting content on TikTok without using TikTok for Younger Users, they will be removed. > TikTok can be downloaded from the App Store, Google Play Store, Amazon Appstore, and other official application platforms. We’ve given the app a 12+ rating specifically so caregivers can access the device-level Apple and Android controls built into your family’s devices. If you don’t want your teen to download our app, you can prevent them from doing so using the parental controls available via these stores. if she addicted, she probably started to consume tiktok prior to her 10'th year, parental issue here you should have set up screen time so she don't spent all her time on her phone the best way to create problems btw, is to cut addictions overnight

Loughla 4y ago

I didn't say anything about tiktok? I'm very confused by your comment. It's full of strawman arguments around tiktok, which I am not talking about exclusively. And an ad hominem about my parenting. There isn't really anything in this to counter what I said, which was that parents are vastly under-resourced and under-prepared compared to the companies putting these apps into the world.

tekknik 4y ago
Your parent did say something about tiktok. If parents all parents are “ vastly under-resourced and under-prepared” then how come this is not a universal problem? How come someone can’t point fault at the parents without the parents getting super defensive? All parents must be perfect (none are) and clearly are experts at raising kids right? Do you think, at least in some cases, it is inattentive parents?
- DiggyJohnson 4y ago
  It is a universal problem, that’s what is being discussed here. I think your comments so far have been very off the mark on this regard.
  - tekknik 4y ago
    But as per the report, it’s rising therefor by definition not a universal problem. This is also just the US perspective, no other countries. So what data do you have that shows this is universal?