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I'd love to learn more about the concept of JavaScript containers, but all I've got so far is several paragraphs about language supremacy (ick) and a veiled hir

I'd love to learn more about the concept of JavaScript containers, but all I've got so far is several paragraphs about language supremacy (ick) and a veiled hiring advertisement.

bovermyer 4y ago
They don't exist yet, not fully. But what you _really_ want to look at right now is WASM as a replacement for Docker. For example: https://developer.okta.com/blog/2022/01/28/webassembly-on-kubernetes-with-rust https://developer.okta.com/blog/2022/01/28/webassembly-on-ku... https://training.linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-wasi-makes-containerization-more-efficient/ https://training.linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-wasi-makes-con...
- x3haloed 4y ago
  OK, after I read this, I can't stop thinking about how much I love this idea. I've been searching and searching thinking that there must be a toolset in alpha out there somewhere that I can play with. The only think I can find right now is Krustlet, which is not really what I'm looking for. I want something that I can run on my own hardware. Have you (or anyone else 'round these parts) hears of a WASM replacement for Docker in development? We're looking for a WASM runtime that can handle orchestration of multiple assemblies on the same machine, I suppose: https://www.docker.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Docker-Website-2018-Diagrams-071918-V5_a-Docker-Engine-page-first-panel.png.webp https://www.docker.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Docker-Web... EDIT: I found what we're looking for! Docker Engine is a container runtime. What we need is an alternate container runtime that will work with WASM. K8s-compatible options are described in the following article: https://kubernetes.io/docs/setup/production-environment/container-runtimes/ https://kubernetes.io/docs/setup/production-environment/cont... It turns out that both CRI-O and containerd can run WASM assemblies via the WasmEdge runtime in crun: CRI-O: https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/crio.html https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/crio.html containerd: https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/containerd.html https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/containerd.html And you can create WASM containers without docker hub images by controlling crun directly: https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/container/crun.html https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/container/crun.html

I'd love to learn more about the concept of JavaScript containers, but all I've got so far is several paragraphs about language supremacy (ick) and a veiled hiring advertisement.

bovermyer 4y ago

They don't exist yet, not fully. But what you _really_ want to look at right now is WASM as a replacement for Docker. For example: https://developer.okta.com/blog/2022/01/28/webassembly-on-kubernetes-with-rust https://developer.okta.com/blog/2022/01/28/webassembly-on-ku... https://training.linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-wasi-makes-containerization-more-efficient/ https://training.linuxfoundation.org/blog/how-wasi-makes-con...

x3haloed 4y ago
OK, after I read this, I can't stop thinking about how much I love this idea. I've been searching and searching thinking that there must be a toolset in alpha out there somewhere that I can play with. The only think I can find right now is Krustlet, which is not really what I'm looking for. I want something that I can run on my own hardware. Have you (or anyone else 'round these parts) hears of a WASM replacement for Docker in development? We're looking for a WASM runtime that can handle orchestration of multiple assemblies on the same machine, I suppose: https://www.docker.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Docker-Website-2018-Diagrams-071918-V5_a-Docker-Engine-page-first-panel.png.webp https://www.docker.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Docker-Web... EDIT: I found what we're looking for! Docker Engine is a container runtime. What we need is an alternate container runtime that will work with WASM. K8s-compatible options are described in the following article: https://kubernetes.io/docs/setup/production-environment/container-runtimes/ https://kubernetes.io/docs/setup/production-environment/cont... It turns out that both CRI-O and containerd can run WASM assemblies via the WasmEdge runtime in crun: CRI-O: https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/crio.html https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/crio.html containerd: https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/containerd.html https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/cri/containerd.html And you can create WASM containers without docker hub images by controlling crun directly: https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/container/crun.html https://wasmedge.org/book/en/kubernetes/container/crun.html