>Idk but in France, when I was still a teenager, it was not that uncommon to talk/joke about the fact that we will never be able to retire. The same in Italy.

>Idk but in France, when I was still a teenager, it was not that uncommon to talk/joke about the fact that we will never be able to retire. The same in Italy. It was very disheartening and certainly contributed to our discontent. >home ownership becoming harder and harder This is starting to weigh more and more in our life (mine and my age cohort). The average monthly pay in my region is 1200EUR while the average cost of an house is 250000EUR, so 17 years of salary. On the other hand my father bought two houses with a manual laborer stipend and my mother never worked a day in her life and she had four children. I really don't know when (or better, if) I will be out of my house.