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It's true though. Modern day China looks nothing like the 80s. The speed at which they eradicated poverty is unprecedented. Of course if you expect Beijing or

It's true though. Modern day China looks nothing like the 80s. The speed at which they eradicated poverty is unprecedented. Of course if you expect Beijing or Shanghai to be as free, safe and clean as Zurich, Amsterdam or Copenhagen then you'll be disappointed...then again not even NYC, LA, London manage to reach such peaks in all the 3 aforementioned fundamentals That's why , like everything there is a leaderboard in which you compete against others, as well as yourself from the past. China is still behind when matched against the West, but nobody improved over their past self as much as them.

trompetenaccoun 4y ago
I grew up in the Mainland, it is much worse now freedom and equality wise than ever in my lifetime. Of course some foreigners only see the skyscrapers and not the concentration camps. It was the same sort of materialistic thinking that lead them to outsource everything in the first place. If we talk about degeneration, we can also talk about Westerners parroting a totalitarian regime's talking points. It was the party that starved the people and it was the party that "saved" them. Amazing job. Meanwhile no one starved in free China (RoC) and the GDP per capita is still multiple times higher there. But I never see any of you guys talk about the supposed Taiwan miracle. It obviously don't work for that sort of propaganda. It was rich elites like Gates, Munger & co who enabled the CCP, made them rich and created the system as it exists today - a perfect dystopian nightmare. It now comes back to bite you in the ass, many simply have not realized it yet. Just like they had no problem doing business with Russia right up to the war. Here's a bit of Gates mental diarrhea from 12 years ago: >But today his reinvention suffered something of a setback when he played down China's attempts to stifle dissent on the internet as "very limited". https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/jan/25/bill-gates-web-censorship-china https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/jan/25/bill-gate... Today Bing remains the only American search engine that isn't blocked in China, because they censor like no tomorrow. Even 'be evil' Google is less evil than Bill Gates, this guy has all the money but no morals whatsoever. He's the last person in a position to lecture anyone on misinformation, his company is part of the worst misinformation network on the planet - the CCP intranet aka inside the GFW, where over a billion people are trapped viewing what is increasingly aggressive totalitarian propaganda.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  Doesn’t Bill Gates barely own Microsoft? Like the GitHub founders combined own or used to own as much as him I think. At least it was in the same ball park. Not sure what he has to do with Bing. Something that only came into existence 13 years ago. —- People regularly talk about Taiwan’s success. Can you show any one objecting to that? It would be difficult for people to always bring up other Asian success stories: Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan vs China. —- I don’t even like Gates or any other billionaires. Your anger appears to be misdirected and too focused on specific things.
Ferrotin 4y ago
Literally all the Asian Tigers were precedent, which Deng and mainland China copied.
tlear 4y ago
Yes lets forget the 1940-1980 period. Let's forget Cultural revolution, Young guards, mass starvation and other advancements CPP

trompetenaccoun 4y ago

I grew up in the Mainland, it is much worse now freedom and equality wise than ever in my lifetime. Of course some foreigners only see the skyscrapers and not the concentration camps. It was the same sort of materialistic thinking that lead them to outsource everything in the first place. If we talk about degeneration, we can also talk about Westerners parroting a totalitarian regime's talking points. It was the party that starved the people and it was the party that "saved" them. Amazing job. Meanwhile no one starved in free China (RoC) and the GDP per capita is still multiple times higher there. But I never see any of you guys talk about the supposed Taiwan miracle. It obviously don't work for that sort of propaganda. It was rich elites like Gates, Munger & co who enabled the CCP, made them rich and created the system as it exists today - a perfect dystopian nightmare. It now comes back to bite you in the ass, many simply have not realized it yet. Just like they had no problem doing business with Russia right up to the war. Here's a bit of Gates mental diarrhea from 12 years ago: >But today his reinvention suffered something of a setback when he played down China's attempts to stifle dissent on the internet as "very limited". https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/jan/25/bill-gates-web-censorship-china https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/jan/25/bill-gate... Today Bing remains the only American search engine that isn't blocked in China, because they censor like no tomorrow. Even 'be evil' Google is less evil than Bill Gates, this guy has all the money but no morals whatsoever. He's the last person in a position to lecture anyone on misinformation, his company is part of the worst misinformation network on the planet - the CCP intranet aka inside the GFW, where over a billion people are trapped viewing what is increasingly aggressive totalitarian propaganda.

skinnymuch 4y ago
Doesn’t Bill Gates barely own Microsoft? Like the GitHub founders combined own or used to own as much as him I think. At least it was in the same ball park. Not sure what he has to do with Bing. Something that only came into existence 13 years ago. —- People regularly talk about Taiwan’s success. Can you show any one objecting to that? It would be difficult for people to always bring up other Asian success stories: Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan vs China. —- I don’t even like Gates or any other billionaires. Your anger appears to be misdirected and too focused on specific things.

Ferrotin 4y ago

Literally all the Asian Tigers were precedent, which Deng and mainland China copied.

tlear 4y ago

Yes lets forget the 1940-1980 period. Let's forget Cultural revolution, Young guards, mass starvation and other advancements CPP