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I think there’s a few reasons they don’t worry about it: 1. This very rarely comes up at all. 2. These guys aren’t usually that good (by NHL standards) and yo

I think there’s a few reasons they don’t worry about it: 1. This very rarely comes up at all. 2. These guys aren’t usually that good (by NHL standards) and you’ve probably lost the game anyway. You’re relying on your defense to keep the puck away from them more than you’re relying on them to excel. 3. (Probably most important to your point). This is one of the best days in this guy’s life. He’s In an NHL game and will be in the highlight reels. Playing well and stopping his team’s power forward from scoring is a massive high that does way more than his preferred team winning or losing.

ascagnel_ 4y ago
> These guys aren’t usually that good (by NHL standards) and you’ve probably lost the game anyway. Interestingly, EBUGs have a pretty good record -- teams using an EBUG have won 3 of 4 games they've been used in. I think #3 factors into it: the players know that a "normal" (to be clear: while EBUGs aren't NHL caliber, they're not scrubs or beer leaguers, either) guy has gotten the night of a lifetime, and they'll (based on a subjective eye test) play more tightly in their own end.
- dmurray 4y ago
  > Interestingly, EBUGs have a pretty good record -- teams using an EBUG have won 3 of 4 games This is mostly coincidental: the goalies only appeared in the dying minutes or seconds of games their teams were already leading.
  - ascagnel_ 4y ago
    My point is more that, given the wide skill gap between an NHL-caliber player and a EBUG, there's a reasonable chance that the EBUG would "blow" the lead (a hockey goaltender is one of the most consequential positions in sports, probably second to a gridiron football quarterback). Of the four EBUG appearances, three were no-decision games (the lead didn't change after the EBUG came in) and one win (a come-from-behind victory after the EBUG came in).
- Delk 4y ago
  It'd make absolute sense to play more tightly on defence when you've got an EBUG in your net as plain self-preservation. Of course the players may want to give extra support to the emergency guy out of sympathy as well, but if you've still got any shot left at the game, you'd also do it for simple tactical reasons.
- chrisweekly 4y ago
  >"EBUGs aren't... beer leaguers" is contradicted by the stories in this thread
  - ascagnel_ 4y ago
    Most EBUGs had their career apex in either minor leagues or NCAA D-I college hockey; while the EBUGs may still play in local beer leagues, the colloquialism doesn't really apply to them ("beer leaguer" being a pejorative that implies a player's career apex was in a beer league).
boomboomsubban 4y ago
>These guys aren’t usually that good To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye. And on three, I agree. But the rule also applies to playoffs and it's interesting to imagine how you would play with your favorite team's Stanley Cup dreams riding on it. More so when you add in how the city would react to your actions.
- tedmiston 4y ago
  > He made two saves on three shots, allowing a goal from Jason Robertson, which wound up being the game winner to help secure a 4–2 win for Dallas.[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hodges_(ice_hockey) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hodges_(ice_hockey)
  - boomboomsubban 4y ago
    I'm not sure why you're responding to me with that quote.
    - tedmiston 4y ago
      > > These guys aren’t usually that good > To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye. You mentioned that he's nearly blind in one eye in response to someone saying that EBUGs aren't usually that good. And yet, he stopped 2 of the 3 shots on him securing the game win. So perhaps, he is actually that good.
      - boomboomsubban 4y ago
        >And yet, he stopped 2 of the 3 shots on him securing the game win >which wound up being the game winner to help secure a 4–2 win for Dallas Hodges was playing for Anaheim. Plus, stopping 2/3rds of your shots is pretty terrible. Linking Scott Foster's page would have made more sense, he stopped all 7 shots, but even he would probably agree he isn't that great.
- moondev 4y ago

ascagnel_ 4y ago

> These guys aren’t usually that good (by NHL standards) and you’ve probably lost the game anyway. Interestingly, EBUGs have a pretty good record -- teams using an EBUG have won 3 of 4 games they've been used in. I think #3 factors into it: the players know that a "normal" (to be clear: while EBUGs aren't NHL caliber, they're not scrubs or beer leaguers, either) guy has gotten the night of a lifetime, and they'll (based on a subjective eye test) play more tightly in their own end.

dmurray 4y ago
> Interestingly, EBUGs have a pretty good record -- teams using an EBUG have won 3 of 4 games This is mostly coincidental: the goalies only appeared in the dying minutes or seconds of games their teams were already leading.
- ascagnel_ 4y ago
  My point is more that, given the wide skill gap between an NHL-caliber player and a EBUG, there's a reasonable chance that the EBUG would "blow" the lead (a hockey goaltender is one of the most consequential positions in sports, probably second to a gridiron football quarterback). Of the four EBUG appearances, three were no-decision games (the lead didn't change after the EBUG came in) and one win (a come-from-behind victory after the EBUG came in).
Delk 4y ago
It'd make absolute sense to play more tightly on defence when you've got an EBUG in your net as plain self-preservation. Of course the players may want to give extra support to the emergency guy out of sympathy as well, but if you've still got any shot left at the game, you'd also do it for simple tactical reasons.
chrisweekly 4y ago
>"EBUGs aren't... beer leaguers" is contradicted by the stories in this thread
- ascagnel_ 4y ago
  Most EBUGs had their career apex in either minor leagues or NCAA D-I college hockey; while the EBUGs may still play in local beer leagues, the colloquialism doesn't really apply to them ("beer leaguer" being a pejorative that implies a player's career apex was in a beer league).

boomboomsubban 4y ago

>These guys aren’t usually that good To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye. And on three, I agree. But the rule also applies to playoffs and it's interesting to imagine how you would play with your favorite team's Stanley Cup dreams riding on it. More so when you add in how the city would react to your actions.

tedmiston 4y ago
> He made two saves on three shots, allowing a goal from Jason Robertson, which wound up being the game winner to help secure a 4–2 win for Dallas.[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hodges_(ice_hockey) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Hodges_(ice_hockey)
- boomboomsubban 4y ago
  I'm not sure why you're responding to me with that quote.
  - tedmiston 4y ago
    > > These guys aren’t usually that good > To further this point, the person in this article is nearly blind in one eye. You mentioned that he's nearly blind in one eye in response to someone saying that EBUGs aren't usually that good. And yet, he stopped 2 of the 3 shots on him securing the game win. So perhaps, he is actually that good.
    - boomboomsubban 4y ago
      >And yet, he stopped 2 of the 3 shots on him securing the game win >which wound up being the game winner to help secure a 4–2 win for Dallas Hodges was playing for Anaheim. Plus, stopping 2/3rds of your shots is pretty terrible. Linking Scott Foster's page would have made more sense, he stopped all 7 shots, but even he would probably agree he isn't that great.
moondev 4y ago