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If that kid doesn't have a future beyond living with his parents, sure. But it's a pretty flimsy argument when you consider the future and his parents' living

by klyrs 5y ago

If that kid doesn't have a future beyond living with his parents, sure. But it's a pretty flimsy argument when you consider the future and his parents' living conditions. Personally, I'd like kids like that to be able to save up for college and retirement. But in the alarmingly common situation where that 17 year-old is helping a single parent get by, that $25/hour salary starts to make a lot of sense.

_-david-_ 5y ago
You are making a flimsy argument. If you want kids to be able to save up why not make it $100 an hour? That would make it more likely they could afford college and a good retirement. The point of a teenager having a job is not to support his family, but to have some extra spending money and to gain experience. I don't think a person should make a career out of minimum wage jobs. They have them to gain experience or to fall back on in hard times.
- klyrs 5y ago
  > The point of a teenager having a job is not to support his family, but to have some extra spending money and to gain experience. That was my privilege growing up in a middle class family, too. But a whole lot of my friends had jobs to support their families as soon as they were old enough to legally work.
  - _-david-_ 5y ago
    I am talking about what teenage jobs should be, not what they are for many people. I think raising the minimum wage to $25 is going to make it harder for teenagers with no experience to get a job. Right now they can get $10 an hour, if the minimum wage is $25 they won't get the job and will get $0. Which is better for the poor family?
    - klyrs 5y ago
      > I am talking about what teenage jobs should be, not what they are for many people. Wilful ignorance is not a good-faith approach to conversation. Have a nice day.
      - _-david-_ 5y ago
        I am not being willfully ignorant. I know about the situation you are talking about. I was not talking about that situation. Thanks for replying I guess though.

by klyrs 5y ago

_-david-_ 5y ago

You are making a flimsy argument. If you want kids to be able to save up why not make it $100 an hour? That would make it more likely they could afford college and a good retirement. The point of a teenager having a job is not to support his family, but to have some extra spending money and to gain experience. I don't think a person should make a career out of minimum wage jobs. They have them to gain experience or to fall back on in hard times.

klyrs 5y ago
> The point of a teenager having a job is not to support his family, but to have some extra spending money and to gain experience. That was my privilege growing up in a middle class family, too. But a whole lot of my friends had jobs to support their families as soon as they were old enough to legally work.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  I am talking about what teenage jobs should be, not what they are for many people. I think raising the minimum wage to $25 is going to make it harder for teenagers with no experience to get a job. Right now they can get $10 an hour, if the minimum wage is $25 they won't get the job and will get $0. Which is better for the poor family?
  - klyrs 5y ago
    > I am talking about what teenage jobs should be, not what they are for many people. Wilful ignorance is not a good-faith approach to conversation. Have a nice day.
    - _-david-_ 5y ago
      I am not being willfully ignorant. I know about the situation you are talking about. I was not talking about that situation. Thanks for replying I guess though.