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> You see who turns into an asshole under pressure Does this work? How? Isn't that the interesting part here? The fact this test exists is uninteresting.

Victerius 5y ago
The post doesn't go into enough detail to be sure, but I think the "asshole" participants fighting for control of the whiteboard assumed that whoever would successfully lead the group to solve the puzzle would receive good marks and have the highest probability of receiving an offer. Furthermore, some companies, or departments/teams within companies, foster a corporate culture where "assholes" are more likely to be promoted. So a group participant who isn't naturally an "asshole" may have taken a risk by behaving like one, gambling on the idea that such traits would be looked upon favorably.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  I don't get it - in the recollection, the person leading at the front wasn't getting anywhere, so someone else stepped in to give it a go. Is that supposed to be an asshole thing to do?
  - ghaff 5y ago
    I didn't really get from reading that who the asshole was supposed to be. Nothing's happening and someone steps up. Doesn't inherently seem like an asshole thing to do. Things still not working and someone else steps up and says "Mind if I give this a shot?" Not inherently asshole either. You can get an everyone tries to take charge situation in these scenarios. But just sitting back and waiting for someone to tell you what to do doesn't seem great either.
  - noselasd 5y ago
    Well the story doesn't tell us who was the 'assholes'. It could be someone up at the whiteboard, or it could be someone yelling at the people that was at the whiteboard.
  - throwaway6532 5y ago
    The one time I've experienced assessing this type of thing it's very much something you have a natural feel for as you watch the events unfold. You can't really assess it in the abstract sense, it's all about the concrete interactions and how the individuals handle them.
itronitron 5y ago
This is also what many internships are for.
- Aachen 5y ago
  I'm probably from a different culture than you so this is new to me. Care to elaborate? Am I picturing it right that someone is put under stress for six months without pay (or at least for pay that might barely cover base rent in my experience) to see if they can deal with stress without burning out or doing a worse job?
  - itronitron 5y ago
    It shouldn't be like that. Most internships are three months and typically in the summer between academic years for undergraduate or graduate students. They are paid internships, but much less than a permanent position (enough to cover base rent and travel logistics.) The stress should not be too high as most companies have policies that interns can not be assigned to essential work activities (and this might be the law in some US states.) It's typically 'educational' in some form for them as it lets them see how the sausage is made.
rzzzt 5y ago
Being built mostly from oxygen and carbon, people should turn into a diamond under pressure.

Victerius 5y ago

The post doesn't go into enough detail to be sure, but I think the "asshole" participants fighting for control of the whiteboard assumed that whoever would successfully lead the group to solve the puzzle would receive good marks and have the highest probability of receiving an offer. Furthermore, some companies, or departments/teams within companies, foster a corporate culture where "assholes" are more likely to be promoted. So a group participant who isn't naturally an "asshole" may have taken a risk by behaving like one, gambling on the idea that such traits would be looked upon favorably.

chrisseaton 5y ago
I don't get it - in the recollection, the person leading at the front wasn't getting anywhere, so someone else stepped in to give it a go. Is that supposed to be an asshole thing to do?
- ghaff 5y ago
  I didn't really get from reading that who the asshole was supposed to be. Nothing's happening and someone steps up. Doesn't inherently seem like an asshole thing to do. Things still not working and someone else steps up and says "Mind if I give this a shot?" Not inherently asshole either. You can get an everyone tries to take charge situation in these scenarios. But just sitting back and waiting for someone to tell you what to do doesn't seem great either.
- noselasd 5y ago
  Well the story doesn't tell us who was the 'assholes'. It could be someone up at the whiteboard, or it could be someone yelling at the people that was at the whiteboard.
- throwaway6532 5y ago
  The one time I've experienced assessing this type of thing it's very much something you have a natural feel for as you watch the events unfold. You can't really assess it in the abstract sense, it's all about the concrete interactions and how the individuals handle them.

itronitron 5y ago

This is also what many internships are for.

Aachen 5y ago
I'm probably from a different culture than you so this is new to me. Care to elaborate? Am I picturing it right that someone is put under stress for six months without pay (or at least for pay that might barely cover base rent in my experience) to see if they can deal with stress without burning out or doing a worse job?
- itronitron 5y ago
  It shouldn't be like that. Most internships are three months and typically in the summer between academic years for undergraduate or graduate students. They are paid internships, but much less than a permanent position (enough to cover base rent and travel logistics.) The stress should not be too high as most companies have policies that interns can not be assigned to essential work activities (and this might be the law in some US states.) It's typically 'educational' in some form for them as it lets them see how the sausage is made.

rzzzt 5y ago

Being built mostly from oxygen and carbon, people should turn into a diamond under pressure.