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> The biggest risk that this company has is that Cloudflare (in all reality) should just buy them or reimplement it. It’s the type of product cloudflare would m

by polote 4y ago

> The biggest risk that this company has is that Cloudflare (in all reality) should just buy them or reimplement it. It’s the type of product cloudflare would make, that’s for sure. The same thing is being said on HN about all kind of network software, but tell me one software that Cloudflare is really known for except its cdn ? None. HN is really a strong echo chamber and some people believe Cloudflare and Stripe are going to be the leader in all software areas. (Even though Cloudflare is not the leading CDN and Stripe is not the leading payment processor). They are both amazing companies but they won't fix all problems of the world. I would even argue that they won't even solve more than their current core domains

freedomben 4y ago
We must be in different circles, because WAF (web application firewall) is what I would say they're most known for. But I agree Cloudflare isn't well known (at least yet) fort many of the other things they offer. Been a lot of buzz around workers but I haven't tried it myself yet.
- devman0 4y ago
  CDN and Reverse Proxy are Cloudflare's bread and butter really, WAF came later. The issue is that those technologies are rather invisible to most users when they are working correctly.
nickysielicki 4y ago
I bring up cloudflare because the technologies involved with Tailscale are really cloudflare core competencies. Cloudflare runs 1.1.1.1/WARP which is a massive dns server and wireguard VPN, respectively. They already have Cloudflare Access. It’s a natural fit. It’s pretty easy to imagine that cloudflare is better positioned to steal customers from Tailscale than Cisco, F5, or Fortinet. Cloudflare needs to solve two problems: they need to introduce a free tier of Access that doesn’t use the CDN and creates direct connections between endpoints (to basically remove all operating costs), and they need to make the onboarding process for hobbyists easier instead of having a “contact sales” link on their homepage for these products. That’s doable.
SergeAx 4y ago
CloudFlare has a world best DNS system, and if you are still using another DNS provider - I wholeheartedly recommend to switch ASAP.

by polote 4y ago

freedomben 4y ago

We must be in different circles, because WAF (web application firewall) is what I would say they're most known for. But I agree Cloudflare isn't well known (at least yet) fort many of the other things they offer. Been a lot of buzz around workers but I haven't tried it myself yet.

devman0 4y ago
CDN and Reverse Proxy are Cloudflare's bread and butter really, WAF came later. The issue is that those technologies are rather invisible to most users when they are working correctly.

nickysielicki 4y ago

I bring up cloudflare because the technologies involved with Tailscale are really cloudflare core competencies. Cloudflare runs 1.1.1.1/WARP which is a massive dns server and wireguard VPN, respectively. They already have Cloudflare Access. It’s a natural fit. It’s pretty easy to imagine that cloudflare is better positioned to steal customers from Tailscale than Cisco, F5, or Fortinet. Cloudflare needs to solve two problems: they need to introduce a free tier of Access that doesn’t use the CDN and creates direct connections between endpoints (to basically remove all operating costs), and they need to make the onboarding process for hobbyists easier instead of having a “contact sales” link on their homepage for these products. That’s doable.

SergeAx 4y ago

CloudFlare has a world best DNS system, and if you are still using another DNS provider - I wholeheartedly recommend to switch ASAP.