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If the open source implementation is equally good, I'm sure people will use that instead of Tailscale. That Tailscale exists makes me suspect that the open sour

by samhw 4y ago

If the open source implementation is equally good, I'm sure people will use that instead of Tailscale. That Tailscale exists makes me suspect that the open source implementation - as is usually the case with these "just use curlftpfs!" comments – is not equally good. The reality is that making software, like any other human endeavour, takes time and energy. Paying one another money is a rather well-established mechanism of rewarding and incentivising that time and energy (since not everyone wants to work free of charge to make and maintain software for you, out of the goodness of their hearts, no matter how much you insist that you're owed their unpaid labour). There are small and local means of getting free food, or free woodworking, etc, but the general reality is that a high-quality high-dependency maintained product, over the long term, is more feasible when it's paid.

shepherdjerred 4y ago
It's the same argument as the famous Dropbox comment[0]. I'm generally going to prefer a polished service over a technical solution. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
- samhw 4y ago
  Haha, yup, that's what I was quoting in my comment ("just use curlftpfs!").
  - oicU00 4y ago
    Apples and oranges A fully functional web app in a Docker image is what wg-ui is. Web companies could probably just provide API keys for customers at this point and abandon UX teams.
oicU00 4y ago
If agency to make a thing must be purchased the long term viability of the thing is suspect. The work becomes about payments not the thing. If it’s a real human problem, humans will solve it. If it’s instigated due to someone with coins in their pocket to mesmerize lizard brains, it’s a synthetic solution that will vanish with the synthetic driver of the work; payments. Just because paying for things is common throughout history does not mean it’s necessary or the best choice long term; see Netflix propping up payment flows churning out crap. It means meat based tape recorders simply LARP the past.

by samhw 4y ago

shepherdjerred 4y ago

It's the same argument as the famous Dropbox comment[0]. I'm generally going to prefer a polished service over a technical solution. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

samhw 4y ago
Haha, yup, that's what I was quoting in my comment ("just use curlftpfs!").
- oicU00 4y ago
  Apples and oranges A fully functional web app in a Docker image is what wg-ui is. Web companies could probably just provide API keys for customers at this point and abandon UX teams.

oicU00 4y ago

If agency to make a thing must be purchased the long term viability of the thing is suspect. The work becomes about payments not the thing. If it’s a real human problem, humans will solve it. If it’s instigated due to someone with coins in their pocket to mesmerize lizard brains, it’s a synthetic solution that will vanish with the synthetic driver of the work; payments. Just because paying for things is common throughout history does not mean it’s necessary or the best choice long term; see Netflix propping up payment flows churning out crap. It means meat based tape recorders simply LARP the past.