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Acetaminophen (paracetamol) is also associated with reductions in 'social pain'.[0] > Thus, acetaminophen reduces behavioral and neural responses associated wi
by mabbo 4y ago
Acetaminophen (paracetamol) is also associated with reductions in 'social pain'.[0]
> Thus, acetaminophen reduces behavioral and neural responses associated with the pain of social rejection, demonstrating substantial overlap between social and physical pain.
It's a fascinating idea that social pain and physical pain are so strongly related. That depression can be viewed as a form of chronic pain, like a knee that still hurts long after the injury has healed.
And perhaps then positive empathy has something to do with literally feeling the social pain of others- blunt your ability to feel social pain and you aren't as affected by it.
[0]https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0956797610374741?rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed&url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&journalCode=pssa& https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/095679761037474...
- inter_netuser 4y agoThat’s been known for a long time, possibly centuries. morphine was used to treat depression as late as last century, and probably remains a common folk remedy even today.
- bink 4y agoMorphine has more effects than just killing pain, however. It also provides a euphoric feeling. It's more interesting if a drug that was until now only known for removing physical pain can also provide relief for social pain.
- goldenkey 4y agoIt only does for a brief honeymoon phase. Then it's mostly a pain killer (chronic pain sufferer.)
- colechristensen 4y agoWell yes, there’s definitely a reason there are problems with opiate addictions. A differentiation between legal and illegal drugs is the legal ones poison you before they make you feel particularly amazing, the illegal ones poison you after. Take way too much acetaminophen and you get liver failure before you feel euphoria. There are arguments to be made that many illegal drugs are safer at effective doses but have risks of abuse not present in the drugs that poison you before abuse is fun.
- Terry_Roll 4y agoDepending on "who" you listen to Wild Lettuce is either no good or its better than morphine without the addiction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactuca_virosa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactuca_virosa https://erowid.org/plants/lactuca/lactuca.shtml https://erowid.org/plants/lactuca/lactuca.shtml https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactucarium#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactucarium#History So with man made chemicals they tend to not break down as easily, you see this with man made pesticides like pyrethrin's yet the pyrethrin's in Chrysanthemum do break down easily, organophosphates (nerve agents at the right dose) are another group used to dip Sheep in, but might show up in trace amounts in lanolin based Vit D3 supplements.
- CTDOCodebases 4y agoAren't emotions just thoughts with a linked physical sensation? Why is it so fascinating?
- imwillofficial 4y agoJust?
- CTDOCodebases 4y agoI didn’t mean to downplay the intensity and effect of emotion. I found it strange that others don’t acknowledge emotions for what they are at a basic level and instead talk about them like they are some supernatural perception.
- t-3 4y agoWhat? Emotion doesn't have physical sensation, unless you mean "heart pumping strongly when afraid".
- drdeca 4y agoDon’t people with facial paralysis say that their feelings of emotions are, not functioning at full capacity, due to inability to express them outwardly? Or, something like that?
- CTDOCodebases 4y agoI have heard something similar. People get together to fake laugh and end up happy at the end of the session.
- WaxedChewbacca 4y ago
- Evan_Hellmuth 4y agoMost people experience emotional body sensations - “butterflies in my stomach,” “a weight on my chest,” “steam coming out of my ears” etc.
- x-shadowban 4y agoAlcohol too. And both tough on the liver, mere coincidence I suppose.
- noduerme 4y agoAs a drinker, I stick to ibuprofen. I wonder if it's as good for social pain.
- cassepipe 4y agoI wonder if that's not also bad for your liver. Ifnyiu take if for the hangover, I really recommend drinking a lot of water before going to bed instead, it makes wonders.
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y agoIt isn't just about being "bad for your liver" - combining alcohol and acetaminophen can literally kill you. If you've drank enough over the years to permanently damage your liver, there are ton of medications you can no longer take (and ibuprofen is one of them), but if your liver is still working properly, taking ibuprofen is safe - even with alcohol.
- noduerme 4y agoNo, I try to not get hung-over enough to need analgesics. But I have persistent back problems, and taking Tylenol for it regularly would probably cause some compounding liver damage. Ibuprofen is, fwiw, much harder on the stomach - but not toxic to the liver. That's why it's the go-to-side-dish for alkies with a breakfast burrito.
- smegsicle 4y ago> drinking a lot of water and b vitamins (b12 seems to have the greatest effect on reducing hangovers, and i've heard alcoholics tend to be b6 deficient so can't go wrong w that too)
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- brobinson 4y ago>It's a fascinating idea that social pain and physical pain are so strongly related. This reminded me of: "Social rejection shares somatosensory representations with physical pain" https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1102693108 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1102693108