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The worst offenders are shitty SPAs that have less UI responsiveness than a good old school app. They are simply built because the new devs don’t know anything

The worst offenders are shitty SPAs that have less UI responsiveness than a good old school app. They are simply built because the new devs don’t know anything else. My favorite is Circle CI where they don’t even rate Limit the run button and the response from the server takes 5s. It’s the worst of all worlds

latchkey 4y ago
Not sure if it is still the case, but Circle used Clojure/Om [1]... when I heard them say they did that so many years ago, I knew right away it would end up being something nobody wanted to work on. Sure enough, just checked, Om was abandoned [2] and the person blogging about how great everything was is long gone [3]. This is the absolute definition of tech debt. [1] https://circleci.com/blog/how-circleci-processes-4-5-million-builds-per-month/ https://circleci.com/blog/how-circleci-processes-4-5-million... [2] https://github.com/omcljs/om https://github.com/omcljs/om [3] https://circleci.com/blog/why-we-use-om-and-why-were-excited-for-om-next/ https://circleci.com/blog/why-we-use-om-and-why-were-excited...
- valbaca 4y ago
  If the project is completely abandoned, sounds more like tech bankruptcy rather than tech debt.
- yawaramin 4y ago
  > and the person blogging about how great everything was is long gone Umm, she left CircleCI last year after a 6-year stint. That's not exactly 'long gone'.
- didibus 4y ago
  I'm not sure what's the point you're making? It seems like their UI is using next.js now and apparently it still has issues as per OP complaining about the run button behavior. Frontend frameworks often get abandoned: jQuery, backbone, ember, angular, etc. Seems to just be how things goes on the front end. This plagues not only the web, desktop and mobile frontend frameworks also all seem to come and go.
- throwamon 4y ago
  Don't quote me on that, but I believe Om was superseded by Om.Next and now Fulcro? So not exactly abandoned, just evolved?

latchkey 4y ago

Not sure if it is still the case, but Circle used Clojure/Om [1]... when I heard them say they did that so many years ago, I knew right away it would end up being something nobody wanted to work on. Sure enough, just checked, Om was abandoned [2] and the person blogging about how great everything was is long gone [3]. This is the absolute definition of tech debt. [1] https://circleci.com/blog/how-circleci-processes-4-5-million-builds-per-month/ https://circleci.com/blog/how-circleci-processes-4-5-million... [2] https://github.com/omcljs/om https://github.com/omcljs/om [3] https://circleci.com/blog/why-we-use-om-and-why-were-excited-for-om-next/ https://circleci.com/blog/why-we-use-om-and-why-were-excited...

valbaca 4y ago
If the project is completely abandoned, sounds more like tech bankruptcy rather than tech debt.
yawaramin 4y ago
> and the person blogging about how great everything was is long gone Umm, she left CircleCI last year after a 6-year stint. That's not exactly 'long gone'.
didibus 4y ago
I'm not sure what's the point you're making? It seems like their UI is using next.js now and apparently it still has issues as per OP complaining about the run button behavior. Frontend frameworks often get abandoned: jQuery, backbone, ember, angular, etc. Seems to just be how things goes on the front end. This plagues not only the web, desktop and mobile frontend frameworks also all seem to come and go.
throwamon 4y ago
Don't quote me on that, but I believe Om was superseded by Om.Next and now Fulcro? So not exactly abandoned, just evolved?