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Seems like overkill. His assertion about smart switches is incorrect. I have a house full of smart switches that don't connect to the cloud. They are standal

Seems like overkill. His assertion about smart switches is incorrect. I have a house full of smart switches that don't connect to the cloud. They are standalone, but will take commands from Home Assistant. If HA goes down, the switch never even knows, it's still just a light switch. This is how -all- of my home automation works. The thermostat can be controlled via HA, but it's just a thermostat and works 100% normally without HA. The deadbolts? I can see their status in HA, I can tell them to lock, but they still just have a twist knob on the inside and a key (in addition to a keypad) on the outside, so they can be used just like any other deadbolt. Garage door openers, same deal. I do agree that using something like Hue to turn lights on/off isn't a great idea.

cylentwolf 5y ago
what product did you use for the smart switches?
- luma 5y ago
  Any ZigBee or Z-Wave smart switches will be 100% local and just about anything you buy should be supported by Home Assistant. Tested compatible Z-Wave device database: https://devices.zwave-js.io/ https://devices.zwave-js.io/ Same, but for ZigBee: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/
  - JamesSwift 5y ago
    More high-level Zigbee compatibility site: https://zigbee.blakadder.com https://zigbee.blakadder.com
  - stavros 5y ago
    Don't buy anything that isn't Zigbee (or, I guess, Z-wave). Wi-Fi is much too heavy and insecure for smart home stuff, Zigbee has a ton of features you'll want (much simpler protocol, automatic repeaters, etc etc).
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  All of my smart switches are Jasco (aka GE) Z-wave switches. As I buy other HA toys, I've been getting Zigbee when I can. It has been less hassle to do the device adoption process and the USB dongle I use for Home Assistant supports both Z-Wave and Zigbee simultaneously.
eps 5y ago
It's not an overkill if you want to keep existing switches or automate just some of them and not have a potpourri on your walls. Shellies are also noticeably cheaper.

cylentwolf 5y ago

what product did you use for the smart switches?

luma 5y ago
Any ZigBee or Z-Wave smart switches will be 100% local and just about anything you buy should be supported by Home Assistant. Tested compatible Z-Wave device database: https://devices.zwave-js.io/ https://devices.zwave-js.io/ Same, but for ZigBee: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/ https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/
- JamesSwift 5y ago
  More high-level Zigbee compatibility site: https://zigbee.blakadder.com https://zigbee.blakadder.com
- stavros 5y ago
  Don't buy anything that isn't Zigbee (or, I guess, Z-wave). Wi-Fi is much too heavy and insecure for smart home stuff, Zigbee has a ton of features you'll want (much simpler protocol, automatic repeaters, etc etc).
rootusrootus 5y ago
All of my smart switches are Jasco (aka GE) Z-wave switches. As I buy other HA toys, I've been getting Zigbee when I can. It has been less hassle to do the device adoption process and the USB dongle I use for Home Assistant supports both Z-Wave and Zigbee simultaneously.

eps 5y ago

It's not an overkill if you want to keep existing switches or automate just some of them and not have a potpourri on your walls. Shellies are also noticeably cheaper.