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> I get it, maybe Tommy John is better than Fruit of the Loom. I like seeing ads and spending money on things that might be nicer than the things I have now. I

> I get it, maybe Tommy John is better than Fruit of the Loom. I like seeing ads and spending money on things that might be nicer than the things I have now. I can't imagine I'm the only person like this.

bko 5y ago
I take the opposite approach. I like seeing these ads and brands knowing that people are making sacrifices for their career to buy essentially the same products I can get at one tenth the price. But I guess I'm the "make your coffee at home" kind of guy. But I'd rather invest that time and money into things that really matter
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  You can spend $30 on equipment and another $8 for a pound of beans OR You can spend $300 on a burr grinder $150 on one of those neat vacuum brewing devices, and who knows how much for fair trade single source coffee beans roasted in your back yard Or you can find a balance that gets you things you care about (fair trade beans, good roast, a nice grinder for flavor, whatever your taste might be) at a lower price than going all out When it comes to underwear or other clothing items, I'm generally willing to pay a bit more if I know that I'm avoiding plastics and pollution and the workers who make the items aren't working in sweatshop conditions
  - bko 5y ago
    > When it comes to underwear or other clothing items, I'm generally willing to pay a bit more if I know that I'm avoiding plastics and pollution and the workers who make the items aren't working in sweatshop conditions Why do you have so much faith in these new startups? Sure their marketing copy says they're all ethical and great and stuff. But the legacy guys have a reputation and experience. I've been buying their stuff for decades. They've been around for 100 years and will probably continue to be around for another 100 years. Who knows about these new guys? They don't have a reputations. And the new guys don't make their own stuff. You can't even find out where they're made or under what conditions. They probably won't exist in 20 years, let alone 100. They're mostly a bunch of MBA grads that came up w/ this idea a few years ago. You really think they have a better handle on working conditions than the people who have been doing this for 100+ years? I don't buy it
    - netizen-936824 5y ago
      These guys appear to be pretty decent, but it's difficult to verify https://rawganique.com/ https://rawganique.com/
- paulcole 5y ago
  Yeah but to me they're not essentially the same products. The difference between a really nicely made $50 or $100 t-shirt (it is important to note that not all $50 and $100 t-shirts are nicely made) and one that's $6 from wherever is night and day. I can tell by feel and look. Why wouldn't I want the nicest thing I can find and afford? I'll also say that I think nothing really matters, so that might explain some of it.
everyone 5y ago
- netizen-936824 5y ago
  No, it just sounds like they got sucked into the consumer culture whole hog
  - paulcole 5y ago
    I mean, so what?
    - netizen-936824 5y ago
      I was simply answering their question.
- dang 5y ago
  Would you please stop breaking the site guidelines and posting unsubstantive comments? We ban accounts that do that kind of thing. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html This has been a problem for years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22640191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22640191 (March 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18108318 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18108318 (Sept 2018) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18106560 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18106560 (Sept 2018) I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please fix this, we'd appreciate it.
  - everyone 5y ago
    Go ahead, this site is so filled with shockingly ignorant upper class silicon valley groupthinkers that commenting is like banging your head against a particularly stupid brick wall.
    - dang 5y ago
      Nah, only a tiny portion of HN is in SV and surely not all of them are "shockingly ignorant upper class groupthinkers". I think you might be running into the tendency of the internet to be extremely maddeningly annoying. That's actually a complicated phenomenon, it feels exactly like "banging your head against a particularly stupid brick wall", and we all suffer from it to one extent or another. I don't want to ban you.

bko 5y ago

I take the opposite approach. I like seeing these ads and brands knowing that people are making sacrifices for their career to buy essentially the same products I can get at one tenth the price. But I guess I'm the "make your coffee at home" kind of guy. But I'd rather invest that time and money into things that really matter

netizen-936824 5y ago
You can spend $30 on equipment and another $8 for a pound of beans OR You can spend $300 on a burr grinder $150 on one of those neat vacuum brewing devices, and who knows how much for fair trade single source coffee beans roasted in your back yard Or you can find a balance that gets you things you care about (fair trade beans, good roast, a nice grinder for flavor, whatever your taste might be) at a lower price than going all out When it comes to underwear or other clothing items, I'm generally willing to pay a bit more if I know that I'm avoiding plastics and pollution and the workers who make the items aren't working in sweatshop conditions
- bko 5y ago
  > When it comes to underwear or other clothing items, I'm generally willing to pay a bit more if I know that I'm avoiding plastics and pollution and the workers who make the items aren't working in sweatshop conditions Why do you have so much faith in these new startups? Sure their marketing copy says they're all ethical and great and stuff. But the legacy guys have a reputation and experience. I've been buying their stuff for decades. They've been around for 100 years and will probably continue to be around for another 100 years. Who knows about these new guys? They don't have a reputations. And the new guys don't make their own stuff. You can't even find out where they're made or under what conditions. They probably won't exist in 20 years, let alone 100. They're mostly a bunch of MBA grads that came up w/ this idea a few years ago. You really think they have a better handle on working conditions than the people who have been doing this for 100+ years? I don't buy it
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
    These guys appear to be pretty decent, but it's difficult to verify https://rawganique.com/ https://rawganique.com/
paulcole 5y ago
Yeah but to me they're not essentially the same products. The difference between a really nicely made $50 or $100 t-shirt (it is important to note that not all $50 and $100 t-shirts are nicely made) and one that's $6 from wherever is night and day. I can tell by feel and look. Why wouldn't I want the nicest thing I can find and afford? I'll also say that I think nothing really matters, so that might explain some of it.

everyone 5y ago

netizen-936824 5y ago
No, it just sounds like they got sucked into the consumer culture whole hog
- paulcole 5y ago
  I mean, so what?
  - netizen-936824 5y ago
    I was simply answering their question.
dang 5y ago
Would you please stop breaking the site guidelines and posting unsubstantive comments? We ban accounts that do that kind of thing. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html This has been a problem for years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22640191 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22640191 (March 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18108318 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18108318 (Sept 2018) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18106560 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18106560 (Sept 2018) I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please fix this, we'd appreciate it.
- everyone 5y ago
  Go ahead, this site is so filled with shockingly ignorant upper class silicon valley groupthinkers that commenting is like banging your head against a particularly stupid brick wall.
  - dang 5y ago
    Nah, only a tiny portion of HN is in SV and surely not all of them are "shockingly ignorant upper class groupthinkers". I think you might be running into the tendency of the internet to be extremely maddeningly annoying. That's actually a complicated phenomenon, it feels exactly like "banging your head against a particularly stupid brick wall", and we all suffer from it to one extent or another. I don't want to ban you.