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> for code that’s supposed to be used in production it’s useless Then ... don't use it. Others can use it and see what they learn from it, or even whether they

by samhw 4y ago

> for code that’s supposed to be used in production it’s useless Then ... don't use it. Others can use it and see what they learn from it, or even whether they find it productive to build stuff with. Even Brainfuck and Malbolge have devoted users who enjoy the challenges they pose, so I can promise you there's room enough in the world for this language. Let's just have some camomile tea and calm down a little.

HL33tibCe7 4y ago
Except maybe one day I'll be using some software written in Hare which will mess up and have negative implications for me. Furthermore, it could be argued that our time could be spent more productively than on a language like Hare.
- samhw 4y ago
  Then don't use that software. If you're right, software made with it will be worse - if even producible - and it won't take off. I'm sorry, but the ship has sailed: it is already possible to create bad software. The Hare language is not opening some hitherto-unopened Pandora's box. The same forces carrying good software to the top, and bad software to the bottom - and with them the tools used to make both the former and the latter - will continue to function. As for whether our lives could be used better, well, let's leave that to each individual. I heartily encourage you to live your life as I do, worrying about what I myself am spending time on (currently: this inane conversation), rather than whether other people might be spending their own time in some supposedly-slightly-suboptimal manner.
- wheelerof4te 4y ago
  For Christ's sake, you already use messed up software. It is literally everywhere. Your kernel, your networking stack, your interpreters, your office suite. Almost everything you use has some roots in C, a memory unsafe language that "messed up" and still became the most widely used language ever. Software will always mess up, regardless of language it's written in.

by samhw 4y ago

HL33tibCe7 4y ago

Except maybe one day I'll be using some software written in Hare which will mess up and have negative implications for me. Furthermore, it could be argued that our time could be spent more productively than on a language like Hare.

samhw 4y ago
Then don't use that software. If you're right, software made with it will be worse - if even producible - and it won't take off. I'm sorry, but the ship has sailed: it is already possible to create bad software. The Hare language is not opening some hitherto-unopened Pandora's box. The same forces carrying good software to the top, and bad software to the bottom - and with them the tools used to make both the former and the latter - will continue to function. As for whether our lives could be used better, well, let's leave that to each individual. I heartily encourage you to live your life as I do, worrying about what I myself am spending time on (currently: this inane conversation), rather than whether other people might be spending their own time in some supposedly-slightly-suboptimal manner.
wheelerof4te 4y ago
For Christ's sake, you already use messed up software. It is literally everywhere. Your kernel, your networking stack, your interpreters, your office suite. Almost everything you use has some roots in C, a memory unsafe language that "messed up" and still became the most widely used language ever. Software will always mess up, regardless of language it's written in.