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Mobile booting? I hope we will soon see Thunderbird on Android! Finally decent Email-App with PUSH-IMAP, local storage of all E-Mails and a comfortable UI. Bu

Mobile booting? I hope we will soon see Thunderbird on Android! Finally decent Email-App with PUSH-IMAP, local storage of all E-Mails and a comfortable UI. But K9? It works. But it is complicated and has raw edges e.g. the visible permanent notification about PUSH. But FairMail? Cannot store all E-Mails locally. But GMAIL? Doesn't support PUSH with IMAP, only with Googles own Email-Service. Cannot store E-Mails locally.

detaro 4y ago
> the visible permanent notification about PUSH. by what magic way do you think Thunderbird will not need that?
- zinekeller 4y ago
  > by what magic way do you think Thunderbird will not need that? The magic of not knowing how Android handles background tasks, I guess.
rakoo 4y ago
FairEmail can store all emails but doesn't by default
- ho_schi 4y ago
  Thanks. I've checked it again: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/241ecce7527daafeb021e2c22f96617ee8e19108/FAQ.md#user-content-faq50 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/241ecce7527daafeb021e... Was awkward. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/6eba172ee7f77e14008132bd64381d312d585a91/FAQ.md#user-content-faq50 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/6eba172ee7f77e1400813... But implemented it now!
  - rakoo 4y ago
    This one won't be enough: there's another setting saying how long you want to keep messages, with a checkbox to say "indefinitely"
xigoi 4y ago
You can make the permanent notification invisible.
zinekeller 4y ago
> the visible permanent notification about PUSH You definitely didn't read why that notification exists. This is required to allow (somewhat*) reliable background activity in Android 6.0+, and if you're using Android 9+ you can hide it (unfortunately Android 8.1 and below don't support fine-grained notification management). The other option is to rely on Firebase mobile push (previously GCM pushes), but that would require something else to read and push messages to Google. * Unfortunately, most Android phones bundle aggressive power management "features" that will kill K9 (or any app really) if you didn't whitelist them. You should probably read Don't Kill My App (https://dontkillmyapp.com https://dontkillmyapp.com) to learn how to disable this, assuming that your phone allows them.
- ho_schi 4y ago
  I actually hide it and it also keeps working. If I remember correctly the notification contains a link with a short explanation and a hint how an experienced user can hide it. I just opted to not note it here, because it requires manual work and isn't default.

detaro 4y ago

> the visible permanent notification about PUSH. by what magic way do you think Thunderbird will not need that?

zinekeller 4y ago
> by what magic way do you think Thunderbird will not need that? The magic of not knowing how Android handles background tasks, I guess.

rakoo 4y ago

FairEmail can store all emails but doesn't by default

ho_schi 4y ago
Thanks. I've checked it again: https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/241ecce7527daafeb021e2c22f96617ee8e19108/FAQ.md#user-content-faq50 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/241ecce7527daafeb021e... Was awkward. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/6eba172ee7f77e14008132bd64381d312d585a91/FAQ.md#user-content-faq50 https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/blob/6eba172ee7f77e1400813... But implemented it now!
- rakoo 4y ago
  This one won't be enough: there's another setting saying how long you want to keep messages, with a checkbox to say "indefinitely"

xigoi 4y ago

You can make the permanent notification invisible.

zinekeller 4y ago

> the visible permanent notification about PUSH You definitely didn't read why that notification exists. This is required to allow (somewhat*) reliable background activity in Android 6.0+, and if you're using Android 9+ you can hide it (unfortunately Android 8.1 and below don't support fine-grained notification management). The other option is to rely on Firebase mobile push (previously GCM pushes), but that would require something else to read and push messages to Google. * Unfortunately, most Android phones bundle aggressive power management "features" that will kill K9 (or any app really) if you didn't whitelist them. You should probably read Don't Kill My App (https://dontkillmyapp.com https://dontkillmyapp.com) to learn how to disable this, assuming that your phone allows them.

ho_schi 4y ago
I actually hide it and it also keeps working. If I remember correctly the notification contains a link with a short explanation and a hint how an experienced user can hide it. I just opted to not note it here, because it requires manual work and isn't default.