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Americans are gregarious and positive but they simply do not know about what goes on abroad. Either they do not know or do not care. That signals that they too

Americans are gregarious and positive but they simply do not know about what goes on abroad. Either they do not know or do not care. That signals that they too miss a pretty basic level of empathy. The number of countries ravaged/destroyed by americans and their decisions is countless.

jollybean 4y ago
The lack of empathy for the destruction of some places wrought by American power is evident, yes, but on the whole there's almost always a positive impetus. "number of countries ravaged/destroyed by americans and their decisions is countless. " - this is rubbish. The argument could be made for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, but even then, those are uneven arguments and motivations were righteous if flawed. In Afghanistan for example, did not actually spend much time at all bombing Afghanistan infrastructure proper, there are no 'cities levelled' by Americans and there are layers of bureaucracy to try to avoid civilian damage if necessary, they have operating procedures for it, there is even some transparency though it's never perfect. They didn't consistently destroy strategic facilities like 'Oil Refineries' or 'Factories, they spent 10's of Billions investing in Afghanistan, trying to build infrastructure, schools, trying desperately to get little girls to be able to attend schools, trying desperately for some semblance of basic civility. The indifference, lack of basic civil foundation, mass corruption (Afghan leaders funnelling billions into Dubai etc.) made it an impossible task even over 20 years, though plausible with a few more decades. Despite that, there's overwhelming goodwill otherwise.
- wara23arish 4y ago
  im not sure why you are limiting the argument to three countries. this just proves my point. i really dont mean disrespect, the american news media simply does not do a good job of educating americans on their own government’s actions overseas. what happened to: syria libya egypt lebanon yemen venezuela nicaragua the list goes on and on.. i dont think anyone would argue that arming literal islamist extremists in syria is righteous. the number of american interventions is too many to count, and the fact that YOU believe they were righteous proves yet again that you lack empathy. what good does that do to all the victims? intervention after intervention, the situation just gets worse and worse. no one ever get held accountable, american citizens dont know any better and get to be gregarious and positive
- freeflight 4y ago
  > on the whole there's almost always a positive impetus That's just regular old propaganda [0], even many of Russians in Ukraine think they are there for a positive reason, like actually denazifying Ukraine. Just like plenty of Americans had the positive reason of debaathifying Iraq for serving there. But even American soldiers are not always convinced of that "positive impetus" [1], particularly after witnessing the realities on the ground for long enough. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsehood_in_War-Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsehood_in_War-Time [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

jollybean 4y ago

The lack of empathy for the destruction of some places wrought by American power is evident, yes, but on the whole there's almost always a positive impetus. "number of countries ravaged/destroyed by americans and their decisions is countless. " - this is rubbish. The argument could be made for Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, but even then, those are uneven arguments and motivations were righteous if flawed. In Afghanistan for example, did not actually spend much time at all bombing Afghanistan infrastructure proper, there are no 'cities levelled' by Americans and there are layers of bureaucracy to try to avoid civilian damage if necessary, they have operating procedures for it, there is even some transparency though it's never perfect. They didn't consistently destroy strategic facilities like 'Oil Refineries' or 'Factories, they spent 10's of Billions investing in Afghanistan, trying to build infrastructure, schools, trying desperately to get little girls to be able to attend schools, trying desperately for some semblance of basic civility. The indifference, lack of basic civil foundation, mass corruption (Afghan leaders funnelling billions into Dubai etc.) made it an impossible task even over 20 years, though plausible with a few more decades. Despite that, there's overwhelming goodwill otherwise.

wara23arish 4y ago
im not sure why you are limiting the argument to three countries. this just proves my point. i really dont mean disrespect, the american news media simply does not do a good job of educating americans on their own government’s actions overseas. what happened to: syria libya egypt lebanon yemen venezuela nicaragua the list goes on and on.. i dont think anyone would argue that arming literal islamist extremists in syria is righteous. the number of american interventions is too many to count, and the fact that YOU believe they were righteous proves yet again that you lack empathy. what good does that do to all the victims? intervention after intervention, the situation just gets worse and worse. no one ever get held accountable, american citizens dont know any better and get to be gregarious and positive
freeflight 4y ago
> on the whole there's almost always a positive impetus That's just regular old propaganda [0], even many of Russians in Ukraine think they are there for a positive reason, like actually denazifying Ukraine. Just like plenty of Americans had the positive reason of debaathifying Iraq for serving there. But even American soldiers are not always convinced of that "positive impetus" [1], particularly after witnessing the realities on the ground for long enough. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsehood_in_War-Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsehood_in_War-Time [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket